ELI5: Why is Taiwan not recognized as an official country by some?
Taiwan is not a country
How to convince people Taiwan is an independent country? Here are some of my solid points
Um, is Taiwan a country or not?
People have always given me the same mundane and unoriginal counterarguments to my statement. Though their counter arguments are factual, they fail to prove that Taiwan is a country.
Here is a rough list of what they tell me:
-Taiwan is self governing
-Taiwan has native Taiwanese people, Taiwan is not Chinese
-Taiwan wants to be independent
-The ROC came before the PRC
All these points that they mention are either half truths/irrelevant proofs. To understand what a country is, is in fact, quite complicated. According to Wikipedia, "A country is a distinct part of the world, such as a state, nation, or other political entity". But by that logic, Disneyland is a country because it is a distinctive part of the world and it is an entity of commerce that had its own currency, that has its own members of government, members of state (board of execs) and it is a distinct entity. But is Disneyland a country? No. So we have to look further than Wikipedia.
In 1933, the Montevideo convention sought to define what a country was. They settled that a country had:
-A permanent population
-A defined territorial boundary
-A government
-Ability to have diplomacy
Taiwan has all of these things, so that's settled right? It's over, checkmate, defeat. My argument has been completely thwarted and I have lost! Well, no quite... For any of you well knowledged internet nerds, you may have hear about places such as the Principality of Sealand, North Dumpling Island, the Republic of Molossia and many other states like these. These are all micro-"nations". They have a permanent population, they have a defined territorial boundary, they have their own governments/legal systems and they all have diplomacy with other unrecognized states. And yet, no one even considers these places to be countries.
You see, a country has two things: De facto rule and De jure rule. De facto rule is the physical presence and strength to exercise your will over a territory. De jure rule is the legal ability to exercise you will over a territory. All of these places I have mentioned are de facto states, not de jure states, because they lack the legal ability to rule themselves. Afghanistan, for example, has only de jure rule over the country but no de facto rule, as the Taliban now has total control of the country. So what gives you de jure (legal) rule over a territory? Well, most people can agree that official UN recognition is the gold standard to reach this goal. Historical, cultural and ethnic borders also help make nations. To undisputedly be a country, you need de facto AND de jure rule.
Sealand has its own passport, its own currency, its own legal system, a flag, a constitution, an anthem, its army (now disbanded) and its borders. Taiwan has these same things, except its a larger island than Sealand. So we can establish that Taiwan has total de facto rule over the island. But does Taiwan have de jure rule? Well, here are some facts:
-182 of 193 UN member states OFFICIALLY recognize the one China principle.
-97%+ of the Taiwanese people originate from Fujian, China. They speak Chinese, but have a different accent and still kept the traditional writing system (or use Hokkien). They celebrate things like Chinese new year and have close Chinese culture.
-Taiwan has never declared independence from China. The majority of the population support pan-blue (Basically saying that Taiwan is China) and pro-reunification parties (Taiwan is under the PRC).
Taiwan's government is led by the REPUBLIC OF CHINA. So tell me, if they want to be their own country, why do they have China in their name? Doesn't that make them Chinese? Well the answer is in fact, yes. In 1945, ww2 ended, the fierce, brutal and oppressive regime under the dictatorship of the Kuomintang had defeated the Japanese, alongside with the help of other nations and groups, such as the people's liberation army (PLA). The PLA had a dream of a prosperous China that would be a strong and powerful nation, like the one we have today. The KMT didn't like the fact that other political parties exist (go figure, its a dictatorship) so the two groups went to war. The KMT at least 10 million people during their leadership, the organization was very corrupt and the army was poorly managed. Warlords had ravaged the country before the war, showing how weak the ROC government was. Because of this, people flocked to join the PLA and abandoned the KMT forces. This resulted in the KMT losing the war and cowardly fleeing to Taiwan. Since then, they claim the war hasn't ended and that they still own the entirety of China.
To conclude, Taiwan is filled with Chinese people, the ROC has no legal jursidiction over Taiwan and the island has no right to be led by an independent country. The island had been Chinese for hundreds of years prior, and foreign interference had taken the island (then known as Formosa) away form the Chinese. Now, its time to make things right and bring it back.
This is not an opinion, but a fact. I do not hate the Taiwanese people, I love them very much. I understand their regards against communism and how they don't want to join a Communist country. But at the end of the day, the Island has no sovereignty, only de facto rule.
Mods, please don't take this down. Doing so will only show how biased you are and how you are weak to western propaganda and only listen to it. If you really want to take this post down, prove me wrong, and prove me otherwise. If you manage to convince me, I will switch teams and join the Taiwanese side.
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