I finally realize why people constantly ask about jeans in this sub. Real denim subreddits are more dedicated to vintage finds or raw denim stuff, leading me back here.

So I've been wearing Wrangler cowboy cuts for a while now. I've worn the original fit and slim fit. Love 'em for the durability, but I found the Levi 527s and realized I was super into the flared-out bootcut as opposed to Wrangler's straighter bootcut.

Thing is, the 527s aren't cut quite right in the waist for me. Low-rise jeans and I ain't quite on the same page. So I found the 517 online, but can't find anywhere to try it on in person.

How does it compare in fit to the 501s or 527s? Or even to Wrangler's cowboy cut jeans?

I'm a noob at this and don't have the money for a high end pair, but I needed some new jeans and tried to find something that could potentially work. These were old stock at Cavenders (a Western store chain in Atlanta), so I'm not sure what the waah was was called. But they're not the current "rinse" offering Levi's has

I didn't soak these so I'm kinda worried they're going to shrink a lot. We'll see. Has anyone faded these before? Any tips?