I finally realize why people constantly ask about jeans in this sub. Real denim subreddits are more dedicated to vintage finds or raw denim stuff, leading me back here.

So I've been wearing Wrangler cowboy cuts for a while now. I've worn the original fit and slim fit. Love 'em for the durability, but I found the Levi 527s and realized I was super into the flared-out bootcut as opposed to Wrangler's straighter bootcut.

Thing is, the 527s aren't cut quite right in the waist for me. Low-rise jeans and I ain't quite on the same page. So I found the 517 online, but can't find anywhere to try it on in person.

How does it compare in fit to the 501s or 527s? Or even to Wrangler's cowboy cut jeans?

I'm looking to get a pair of 517s. Since they're not available in my country, I need to test my luck and order online. I'm confused, however, since these 2 pairs seem to be exactly the same except they're named differently (ex. black vs welcome to the rodeo).

That said, is the color all there is to it? To illustrate, there are pairs where the color is evidently different (dark wash vs old western roads). Though for some pairs like the black one, I think it's just the back pocket which differs.

I'm also even more confused since they have different style numbers and one is just around USD70 while the other is USD98.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

Pair 1 (Style # 005170260): https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/bootcut/517TM-bootcut-mens-jeans/p/005170260

Pair 2 (Style # 005170244): https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/bootcut/517TM-bootcut-mens-jeans/p/005170244