My thoughts on Mark Kelly is that he gets votes. In 2020, Biden beat Trump in Arizona by 10,457 votes. That same election Mark Kelly beat Martha McSally by 78,806. In 2022, Katie Hobbs beat Kari Lake by 17,116 votes. That same election Mark Kelly beat Blake Masters by 125,718 votes. He was able to pull in all those extra votes from everywhere. He got some across the aisle, independents and also dems. Answer from vivaphx on reddit.com
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reddit.com › r/arizona › what is the general public opinion on mark kelly?
r/arizona on Reddit: What is the general public opinion on Mark Kelly?
July 22, 2024 -

(to preface, this is not saying anything negative towards him, just personally curious)

I remember seeing his ads years ago on TV, never thought much of it. Guess I didn't even pay attention enough since I never knew he was a senator of ours until like a year ago. Haven't really heard much about him lately, but I've seen a few people call out that he would be an interesting Dem VP pick.

Again, haven't heard much about him for a minute, but I guess politically wise that's not necessarily a bad thing. Never even really heard him being discussed politically or even as a person locally. I've at least heard as a person he's a really nice guy and has led a pretty interesting life.

Anyone have any input?

(I did notice rule 3 so if this applies I will remove/mods can remove, all good, don't think i'm much of a 'regular' per se)

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redditmedia.com › r/democrats › how do y’all feel about mark kelly running for potus in 2028?
r/democrats on Reddit: How do y’all feel about Mark Kelly running for POTUS in 2028?
January 9, 2025 - Kelly is not going to win. He's boring. He would be an incredible president, but that's not how presidents are chosen currently. ... Also, after 4 years of chaos, boring is a pretty good selling point. ... Kind of? He's very even-keeled. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's the not a rock star aspect it's clear people vote for these days. But, that's what a campaign is all about. Branding and getting the message out. A decent marketing team can showcase him as someone literally "out of this world," have fun with it, and hit all the right notes.
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reddit.com › r/askpolitics › how is mark kelly's video wrong when the sec. of defense recently said he would not follow the rules of engagement?
r/Askpolitics on Reddit: How is Mark Kelly's video wrong when the Sec. of Defense recently said he would not follow the rules of engagement?
November 26, 2025 -

I am sure most people here are familiar with the unfolding controversy over Mark Kelly's recent video stating that soldiers can disobey illegal orders, with Hegseth having just ordered an investigation of the issue: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/nov/25/us-politics-pam-bondi-appeal-james-comey-letitia-james-cases-donald-trump-venezuela-latest-updates

What I want to understand is what reason anyone has why this kind of statement is wrong or unreasonable to make, when the Secretary of Defense, Hegseth himself, just recently stated his intent to not follow rules of engagement.

You can read his full speech here: https://www.war.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/4318689/secretary-of-war-pete-hegseth-addresses-general-and-flag-officers-at-quantico-v/

But I am referring to this excerpt:

>War is something you do sparingly on our own terms and with clear aims. We fight to win. We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy.

We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country.

The US Marine Corps describes the Rules of Engagement as "those directives that delineate the circumstances and limitations under which United States (US) forces will initiate and/or continue combat engagement." It is a subset of the law of war. See here: https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B130936%20Law%20of%20War%20and%20Rules%20Of%20Engagement.pdf

He does not say he's going to change the rules of engagement. He simply says they're not going to fight with them. So it seems this is an unambiguous announcement of intent to issue illegal orders. Why then would it be wrong, let alone illegal, for a representative to say that soldiers can and should disobey illegal orders?

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Technical point (the best kind of point?): you're getting a bit mixed up as to the relationship between the Laws of Warfare (LoW) and Rules of Engagement (RoE) here OP. Laws of Warfare are international laws designed to prohibit atrocities when nations are engaged in wars. Rules of Engagement are entirely self created by the DoD/US and are a set of internal rules that set the standard on what troops are allowed to do. Key distinction: Laws of Land Warfare are international law. Rules of Engagement are limits we voluntarily place on ourselves. So when Hegseth said "we also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement" he means we're not going to limit ourselves in ways that don't make any sense. He didn't say or mean that we're going to start ignoring the Laws of Land Warfare. As an example: In the Vietnam war, significant limitations were placed on the ability to attack targets in Hanoi even though the LoW would state that these are perfectly legitimate targets. We established RoE against attacking them for political reasons. As a more contemporary example. RoE in Iraq could say "under no circumstance are you allowed to shoot at a target until you are first fired upon." Under that kind of RoE a military convoy in the middle of the desert, where no civilians live, could in theory see a road-block with armed people in defensive fighting positions set up ahead of them, and they would have to either stop and seek legal permission to violate the RoE or continue to drive towards that ambush until they were shot at. This is the kind of stupid rule of engagement that Hegseth is talking about. To repeat my earlier line: the meaning of his words was not that we're going to fight with zero RoE or ignore the LoW. His message was that we're not going to self-impose dumb rules on the troops.
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Did he say they’re not going to fight with any rules of engagement or with stupid ones? If it’s “stupid ones”, then it would depend on which ones are considered stupid and whether those specific ones are legally binding in the US as to whether he’s giving an illegal order. The US has changed ROE numerous times. For instance, the US is legally bound by the 1949 Geneva Protocol and the 2005 Additional Protocol III. Both were signed and ratified. But the 1977 Protocols I and II were never ratified and therefore not legally binding (although we use some of their principles). International law is irrelevant if it hasn’t been ratified in some way to make it legally binding, so it really depends what specific rule is in question at the time. Soldiers do have a right to refuse orders they consider illegal. Of course, they can be punished for it and would have to successfully defend their actions in court or be held responsible for insubordination or other crimes.
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reddit.com › r/navy › statement from senator mark kelly, capt, usn, retired.
r/navy on Reddit: Statement from Senator Mark Kelly, CAPT, USN, Retired.
1 week ago - Well said and I absolutely agree with Sen. Mark Kelly that the President and SECWAR are attacking his and our first amendment right. Active Duty or retired (especially retired), you should be allowed to criticize the current administration without fear of reprimand or losing your retirement benefits.
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reddit.com › r/markmywords › mmw president mark kelly
r/MarkMyWords on Reddit: MMW President Mark Kelly
January 21, 2023 -

Since this is where one goes to make wild predictions, what about Senator Mark Kelly getting the nod for the Democrats? Offhand, he would seem to be their best player to run for the office. His background would seem to make him immune to the sorts of attacks the GOP might launch, and would attract some of the very few undecideds.

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reddit.com › r/todayilearned › til senator mark kelly (former astronaut) has an identical twin who confusingly also was an astronaut
r/todayilearned on Reddit: TIL Senator Mark Kelly (former astronaut) has an identical twin who confusingly also was an astronaut
March 29, 2024 - Musk attempting to defend calling Sen. Mark Kelly a “traitor” after he visited Ukraine shows that this person has a very dark soul, demented worldview, and inability to understand very basic things about humanity.
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reddit.com › r/videos › mark kelly defends himself against supposed sedition allegation of trump
r/videos on Reddit: Mark Kelly Defends himself Against Supposed Sedition Allegation of Trump
October 9, 2025 - Senator Mark Kelly talks about Donald Trump attacking him and suggesting he be executed for a video telling soldiers they did not have to obey illegal orders, the issue of political violence in our country, Pete Hegseth opening an investigation into him, Trump’s playbook being the way that democracies die, and support from his Republican colleagues.
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reddit.com › r/military › senator mark kelly in his own words
r/Military on Reddit: Senator Mark Kelly in his own words
November 24, 2025 -

When I was 22 years old, I commissioned as an Ensign in the United States Navy and swore an oath to the Constitution. I upheld that oath through flight school, multiple deployments on the USS Midway, 39 combat missions in Operation Desert Storm, test pilot school, four space shuttle flights at NASA, and every day since I retired – which I did after my wife Gabby was shot in the head while serving her constituents.

In combat, I had a missile blow up next to my jet and flew through anti-aircraft fire to drop bombs on enemy targets. At NASA, I launched on a rocket, commanded the space shuttle, and was part of the recovery mission that brought home the bodies of my astronaut classmates who died on Columbia. I did all of this in service to this country that I love and has given me so much.

Secretary Hegseth’s tweet is the first I heard of this. I also saw the President’s posts saying I should be arrested, hanged, and put to death.

If this is meant to intimidate me and other members of Congress from doing our jobs and holding this administration accountable, it won’t work. I’ve given too much to this country to be silenced by bullies who care more about their own power than protecting the Constitution.

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r/pics on Reddit: Scott Kelly and his twin brother Senator Mark Kelly in the office together.
January 4, 2023 - Mark kelly the senator twin, his wife is Gabrielle Giffords. She’s a congresswoman who was shot in the head in a mass shooting. She’s made an incredible recovery.
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r/Medals on Reddit: Capt Mark Kelly
November 25, 2025 - I have much respect for CAPT Kelly and sorry to see this situation. ... He simply has the second and third rows placed in reverse. Other than that, the mounting looks perfectly fine. They’re clearly professionally mounted, he just pinned them on in the wrong order. ... Which again is the attention to detail part. It really sucks because no matter how much you have achieved (aka Mark Kelly) you will always be tarnished as the guy who couldn’t get his ribbons straight.
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r/RepladiesDesigner on Reddit: Kelly 28 from Mark
September 23, 2023 -

I was repfluenced on a review of a beautiful Birkin from Mark. I decided to give him a try as I've gotten other bags from DD and HMS. He did not disappoint for high end H bags.

Mark did ask me to write a review. I did not receive a discount.

First inquiry and payment made with PPFF on 9/28th. He said it takes 15-20 days for PSPs. It took longer and were received 10/29th. Bag arrived 11/5th.

What can I say? It's a BEAUTIFUL bag. I customized the colors which was not an charge extra. I didn't need to upgrade hardware as it already comes with my favorite rose gold. The leather is supple; shape and structure are good. The hardware and engraving, down to the pearling is spot on. Measurements were precise. The handle is perfect. Stitching looks good. I disclose that I am not a stitching expert and it is not as big of a deal for me. I would have serious issues with anyone calling me out for thread when they should be at least 6 feet of personal space away.

I do not have an auth for comparison. I'm into reps!

I am very happy with my bag. I would recommend Mark for high end H bags and will be a returning customer.

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pressenterprise.com › 2026 › 01 › 05 › pete-hegseth-censures-mark-kelly
Hegseth censures Sen. Kelly after warning about following illegal orders
1 week ago - Pete Hegseth announced that he is issuing a letter of censure to Sen. Mark Kelly over the lawmaker’s participation in a video that called on troops to resist unlawful orders.