Marriot Bonvoy Cards: You have achieved Lifetime Platinum Elite status with Marriot. I am not sure the Brilliant card ( gives you platinum level only) would be worth it to you with its AF of $695. I have to ask, what has you interested in that card if you have lifetime status? Older Cards: YOu are right to not cancel older cards. While time does play a part, what you don't want to lose is the credit amounts. It will change your debt-to-credit ratios. What you spend now may not impact your credit score but close off those accounts and now your everyday spending could put over the 5% which will drop your score. AMEX/Chase: Overall it looks like you are entrenched in the Chase Ecosystem, especially if you upgrade. I am wondering what AMEX is offering that Chase does not that has caught your attention. ...Just some food for thought Answer from SignificantPiccolo91 on reddit.com
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reddit.com › r/amex › upgrade marriott bonvoy to amex plat/gold or brilliant?
r/amex on Reddit: Upgrade Marriott Bonvoy to Amex Plat/Gold or Brilliant?
February 26, 2023 -

I’m considering a new Amex Marriott Bonvoy card. I currently have the Amex Marriott Bonvoy card that automatically replaced the Amex SPG card. I have had this card for 12 years and I’m currently an authorized user of the account (parents applied for me when I graduated college). The card is linked to my Bonvoy account. I frequent Marriott hotels for work and leisure. I’m currently a lifetime Platinum Elite member. My wife does not have status.

Is it worth upgrading or applying myself (for bonus points) or having my wife apply to the Amex Brillaint, Gold or Platinum card? I’d love to gain lounge access and other perks.

My other cards are:

  1. Chase Sapphire Preferred (8 years) - upgrading to Reserved after my annual anniversary in December

  2. Chase Freedom (10 years) - use for quarterly 5% CB

My wife’s cards are:

  1. Mostly uses my cards

  2. Amazon Prime Rewards Visa Chase Card that we use at Amazon And Whole Foods. We pool the points into our Chase Ultimate Rewards for Travel Redemption.

Happy to provide more information.

—update— I’m thinking my wife or I getting the Amex Platinum Card. We keep the Bonvoy card as-is. I’m hesitant to reapply for the Sapphire Reserve and lose an old age card. Thoughts?

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Marriot Bonvoy Cards: You have achieved Lifetime Platinum Elite status with Marriot. I am not sure the Brilliant card ( gives you platinum level only) would be worth it to you with its AF of $695. I have to ask, what has you interested in that card if you have lifetime status? Older Cards: YOu are right to not cancel older cards. While time does play a part, what you don't want to lose is the credit amounts. It will change your debt-to-credit ratios. What you spend now may not impact your credit score but close off those accounts and now your everyday spending could put over the 5% which will drop your score. AMEX/Chase: Overall it looks like you are entrenched in the Chase Ecosystem, especially if you upgrade. I am wondering what AMEX is offering that Chase does not that has caught your attention. ...Just some food for thought
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Rather than upgrading your preferred you should just close the preferred and open a new reserve so you can get a new sign up bonus. The brilliant is worth it if you frequent Marriott. Free night at 85k points can get you into most expensive properties which makes up for the annual fee already. Then you get the dining credit and higher earning rate on marriott stays and some other perks. It will also give you priority pass for lounges but if you get the chase sapphire reserve you'll be getting that anyways. Gold is also a good option and will net you many points. Transferring amex MR to bonvoy is not a good redemption, and these points will be better used on flights. Platinum will only give you centurion lounge access over the other two cards you listed and then a bunch of coupon book like benefits. Have to look at all the benefits yourself and see if you'll be able to make use of them all/most of them to get your annual fee back. I would go with the brilliant or gold instead based on the information you've provided.
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reddit.com › r/amex › people who have brilliant/reserve how do you justify it?
r/amex on Reddit: People who have brilliant/reserve how do you justify it?
August 7, 2023 -

Hello I have been on the credit card game for about a couple years now and I am curious how people justify the high price co-branded cards?

For example

The bonvoy brilliant card at $650 a year gets you the same redemption value as the bonvoy boundless which is only $95. I know it has a better redemption free night value and a $300 dollar dining credit but what am I missing vs owning the platinum and gold for flights and dining? Is it for people who stay at Marriott a lot and the platinum value can offset the upfront fee?

Same general questions for the delta reserve card?

Earning 3x miles on flights is less than the plat 5x on flights?

Are these cards just a status and perks play for brand loyal customers or can it still be finically smart to a credit card points maximizer?

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reddit.com › r/marriott › is it worth getting the amex marriott bonvoy brilliant card; currently platinum elite
r/marriott on Reddit: Is it worth getting the AMEX Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant card; currently Platinum Elite
September 23, 2023 -

9/23/23 update:

Thanks everyone for the comments! I did went ahead and applied for the card. Was suprised it was denied immediately but when I looked at the reason, it said it was due to a security lock or freeze that I had on my Experian CR (forgot all about that). Duh!

Once I had temporarily unlocked my Experian CR, I called AMEX and they were able to check my CR and the account was approved immediately.

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I just checked into the Newport News Marriott and to my surprise, I actually got upgraded to a suite :), which doesn't happen very often for me. But thank you, Marriott.

Currently, I'm at Platinum Elite with just 32 nights this year (lifetime Silver Elite) and have 3 more upcoming stays (about 7 nights total) by the year end. I saw that AMEX currently has Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant® American Express® Card with 170,000 bonus points (after $6K spend) and was debating whether if it's worth to go for it. While I doubt I'll have $6K spend between now and year end to reap the 170K bonus points, to me, the benefits of this card that would appeal to me would be:

- Platinum Elite status (breakfast/lounge, 4 pm checkout, enhanced internet); the 4 pm checkout is the most beneficial perk to me in all my years of being in the program, especially when traveling with family/kids.

- The 25 elite night credits

- Priority Pass (currently have United Explorer card which comes with two UC passes)

The $650 fee is steep and I don't now if I'll have 50 nights of Marriott stays year after year, as it varies (for work and personal travel) but if the $650 buys me 25 nights to start, I think that helps me get to 50 nights quicker.

Looking at my history, I have:

Lifetime Nights

Total Nights:327

Lifetime Statistics

Years as Silver Elite:6

Years as Gold Elite:6

Years as Platinum Elite:5

So, if I were to apply to for this card this week and get approved, I assume the 25 nights will automatically add to my existing 32 nights, which will get me to 57 and that's before the 3 more upcoming stays. This will push me into maintaining my Platinum Elite and come 2024, I assume the 25 free nights will be deposited around the anniversary of when I applied/receive (assuming October)?

RE: $300/year dining statement credit, does that basically mean you get a $25 credit if you have $25 or more in dining charged to the card? If so, that is easily achievable.

RE: Priority Pass Select lounge access; I travel (mostly on United) maybe 2-3 flights per year so I think the Priority Pass would be nice to have, especially if I already use up the two free United Club passes that I get from my United Explorer card.

Thanks!

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reddit.com › r/amex › amex platinum or bonvoy brilliant? or something else entirely...
Amex Platinum or Bonvoy Brilliant? Or something else entirely... : r/amex
November 16, 2021 - Do you want to earn Amex Membership Rewards points or Marriott Bonvoy points? MR is obviously more flexible in usage and generally considered more valuable, if only slightly. Do you care about Centurion Lounge access? This may be a big edge in favor of the Platinum depending upon your home airport and how much you weight this perk.
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reddit.com › r/amex › downgrade options for amex platinum and marriott bonvoy brilliant
r/amex on Reddit: Downgrade options for Amex Platinum and Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant
November 18, 2024 -

I've recently moved from the US to Canada and need to figure out what to do with my high annual fee cards — Amex Platinum and Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant. I have quite a lot of points with each card and want to downgrade (so I'm not paying the high AF!). Once I've redeemed all the points, I'll eventually cancel the cards. I still travel between US and Canada quite often, if that's helpful to know.

Amex Platinum
What downgrade options do I have that will allow me to retain my MR points? I've got 200k+ and can't easily use them in a hurry.

  1. Is there a downgrade option that has zero annual fee? I don't have a business so the Blue Business Plus isn't an option.

  2. Am I able to downgrade AND transfer to a Amex Canadian CC and keep my MR points?

  3. Or is my only option the Green card??

Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant
Same question — what no annual fee downgrade options do I have that will allow me to keep my Bonvoy points?

Thanks!

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reddit.com › r/amexplatinum › platinum to bonvoy brilliant
r/AmexPlatinum on Reddit: Platinum to Bonvoy Brilliant
April 9, 2023 -

I’m currently a platinum cardholder, and I’m not the best at using all the perks that come with it. I’ve been thinking about cancelling for a while, so when I saw an ad for the Amex Bonvoy Brilliant card it got me curious.

Bonvoy Brilliant is $650 annually, and gives you 95k points when you spend 6k in 6 months. It also automatically gives you platinum status.

The platinum status is interesting because I am going on vacation to a Marriott property later this year and feel like platinum status will almost certainly get me a nice upgrade.

Is there anything I should consider before switching the card? Does Amex make this process easy? Will the annual fee I already paid thru Amex for platinum apply directly towards the fee of my Brilliance card?

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reddit.com › r/marriott › two years away from lifetime platinum. is it worth getting the bonvoy brilliant amex to achieve?
r/marriott on Reddit: Two years away from Lifetime Platinum. Is it worth getting the Bonvoy Brilliant AMEX to achieve?
January 1, 2025 -

So I currently need two more years of Platinum or higher to reach lifetime Platinum. I have already exceeded the nights requirement.

My predicament is that my current job only adds up to maybe 10-15 nights a year and personal travel is even less. I greatly benefited from status extensions during COVID to get me to the 8/10 years, so I’m figuring it would be worth the $1300 to carry Platinum for two more years to achieve lifetime?

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Titanium Elite with TWO Amex Marriott Cards (Personal and Business). The Amex Marriott Brilliant Card is VERY worth it... and I'll share a few things. 1) While the cost is $650, you actually get $25 back per month from restaurant bills, so it's really like $350. 2) You Automatically get Platinum Status. 3) After the first year, you get a room for 85,000 every year. That alone could get you a room worth way more than that in New York City or some very expensive places..... Now I have both (I used my SS number to get the business card). With both cards, I start out each year at 40 night credits so it's a lot easier to hit Titanium Elite and I get an additional 35k room. Also, once I hit 75 nights, I get an additional 40k room. So I get 3 free nights per year.
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Just do the math. The biz+personal combo gets you 30 nights for $250/yr and you'll need to get 20 more nights paid or redeemed to hit Platinum. At the lowest reasonable pricing you're talking another $1500/yr for those remaining nights if you burn some points and use both 35k certs. If you're going to stay those nights anyways then that's fine, but if not just do the math on your out of pocket costs. Since you've already hit the nights, and aren't staying as often, it's arguably a bargain to just get the card for the status and be done with it. Regardless of what people say, having LT Plat is better than LT Gold/Silver or no status at all. Just because it isn't as good now compared to x years ago does not make Plat worthless. And yes, I'm saying this as a Starwood loyalist who has long since given up on "the good old days" of status.
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reddit.com › r/amex › amex platinum vs marriott brilliant (and amex fh&r vs. marriott status)
r/amex on Reddit: AmEx Platinum vs Marriott Brilliant (and AmEx FH&R vs. Marriott Status)
April 25, 2020 -

Hi r/amex, I am a relentless status chaser and love having Diamond status with Hilton through my Aspire card. I would like to have some status with Marriott, but would definitely need to have at least Platinum Elite to get any significant value out of it. What card should I choose? Should I go for the Marriott Brilliant for the 15 elite night credits, or is AmEx's Fine Hotels and Resorts program preferable, all things considered? Would love to hear your thoughts.

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reddit.com › r/amex › paying for marriott stay with amex platinum vs amex bonvoy (regular card)
r/amex on Reddit: Paying for Marriott stay with Amex Platinum vs Amex Bonvoy (regular card)
May 3, 2021 -

Hi all, looking to get some input into which card would provide the most bang for the buck when it comes time to pay for an upcoming stay. Appreciate your insights!

Details: Have the Amex Platinum (personal and biz), as well as the Amex Bonvoy (regular version, the one that is no longer open to new applicants). Also have Platinum Elite status with Marriott. Will be in London for 5 nights later this year, and will likely be booking at the JW Marriott Grosvenor which will run approx $400 per night (for simplicity's sake). The reason for booking at the JW is to use 5 Suite Night Awards to get upgraded for free.

Question: I am trying to figure out which card to use for payment when it comes time to settle the hotel bill, lets use $2000 arbitrarily. At first glance, using the Amex Bonvoy seems like a no-brainer as I should earn 12,000 Bonvoy points (6x points per dollar for using the card) + 30,000 Bonvoy points (15 points per dollar for being Marriott Plat). This comes to approx $336 in value assuming TPG's valuation of Bonvoy points of 0.8 cents per point. If I use the Amex Platinum to pay, I would earn a measly 2000 Membership Rewards points which equates to a value of only $40 assuming a valuation of 2 cents per MR point. On the flip side, Bonvoy points are typically 3:1 when transferring to airline partners, whereas MR points are 1:1.

Am I missing something, or is using the Bonvoy card the way to go? Thank you in advance!

EDIT: I can’t think straight sometimes. The only comparison is between 12k Bonvoy points vs 2k MR points, as outlined in one of the responses below.

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reddit.com › r/amex › is the bonvoy brilliant worth it for the less frequent traveler?
r/amex on Reddit: Is the Bonvoy Brilliant worth it for the less frequent traveler?
May 1, 2024 -

Hello, wanted to get your opinion. I'm not a super traveller but I do go places from time to time. I currently have the Amex Gold and I typically use my points on flights but I don't like the thought of getting an airline card as I like the flexibility of picking my flight.

As for hotel stays though, I do not care about the flexibility. I see the 185k deal ends today and curious on your thoughts if this card is worth it for the "less frequent traveler". I am a one-card guy so I would be demoting my gold to green and never using it. The $300 credit will get used easily so to me this is a $350 a year card. I don't have TSA Precheck/Global Entry so I will take advantage of that. My wife and I can spend 60k a year to get the free night aware and would treat that as a date night to the beach or a bigger city near us. The 25 night credits probably won't mean anything as I won't hit titanium or higher. The $100 property credit at the ritz or regis is a question mark for me as I am unsure whats eligible (I'm assuming it would be part of the date night package as its a 2 night stay minimum at one of those hotels).

To me, I lose out, on the freedom to use my points on anything but I gain the relief of not struggling to figure out where we are staying when travelling (airbnb vs hotel vs motel, etc...). The point structure doesn't seem horrible, its just that they can only be used at Marriott.

Would you consider this card only for the frequent traveller?

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reddit.com › r/marriott › on the fence about the brilliant amex card
r/marriott on Reddit: On the fence about the Brilliant Amex card
April 30, 2025 -

I'm trying to figure out if this card will be worth it for me. I have an amex platinum so far, which has been great. I recently started a new job where I travel once a week, and I stay at a marriott hotel, and it got me wondering if getting a dedicated card would be worthwhile. I do also eat out often so the $25 per month would likely be used easily, and I do travel for conferences a few times a year so I could use the free night pretty easily as well.

Anything else I should consider? Does it sound like this is worthwhile for me?

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You should really be ready to go ALL IN on Marriott, and not just for work. It's the only way to make the $650 annual fee worth it to you. One night of work travel per week is going to result in ~52 nights a year. Add that to the 25 night credits you get from having the Brilliant card, and you're at 77, which just gets you Titanium status (75 nights/year required). Let's just assume that you get Titanium even if you don't do a full 52 nights of work travel, through some small vacations or whatever. Titanium status is often considered the first real worthwhile tier of status, because it's the first tier that you actually have to earn. Anyone who can open a Brilliant card can get Platinum, so there's a HUGE number of Platinum users competing for the same tier of benefits. As a Titanium, you'll trump them all, and there are significantly fewer Titaniums than Platinums because you can't instantly earn it. However, the experience with the average Marriott hotel in the US is extremely lackluster and the benefits don't confer you much. The breakfast often sucks (if it exists at all), lounges are just empty quiet spaces with some sodas, there are very few upgrades that exist and they're relatively meaningless, etc. At your average Fairfield, Springhill, Courtyard, etc. (the real road warrior hotels), the most you're going to get is some extra points and a late checkout. Where the Marriott points game really starts to shine is vacations, and especially vacations abroad (assuming you're in the US). This is why people play the points game, from both a points redemption perspective and benefits value perspective. At 52 paid nights a year at an average nightly cost of $150, with Platinum status (your first year) and the Brilliant card, you're looking at around ~170,000 points. Let's round it up to 200,000 to factor in your new card bonus and promotions. To put that amount of points into perspective, 200,000 points would get you 5 nights at an Aloft in Tokyo, or the JW Marriott in Cancun, or The Laguna Luxury Collection Resort in Bali, etc. At those properties you're going to enjoy free baller breakfasts, free lounge access throughout the day (often with enough food/drink to be considered a full meal experience, including alcohol), and because of your increased Titanium status, the likelihood of you getting upgraded will be very high. I just came back from a two-week trip to Japan and Bali, and I did a 5-night redemption at the Westin Tokyo for 320,000 points. I also used 5 Nightly Upgrade Awards to get upgraded into a 1 bedroom suite. This was a $5,000 redemption at the sticker price room rate, and the property was NICE. On par with a Ritz-Carlton or a St. Regis. Free buffet breakfast every day and 2-3 cocktails every night in the lounge. I also got upgraded at the St. Regis Bali and the Westin Tokyo without using NUAs, just as a result of my status. It would be hard to really make these points work as hard for you in the US, because the properties, benefits, and service just tend to be a lot more lackluster, while at the same time the costs of the stays (both in points and dollars) are a lot higher.
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I have the Brilliant and only stay in hotels once a quarter, but the dining credit and 85k certificate alone pay for the annual fee for me. I see the certificate as treating myself to a luxury brand stay and just stay at Fairfields the other times.
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reddit.com › r/marriott › amex marriott bonvoy brilliant/bevy or bonvoy business?
r/marriott on Reddit: Amex Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant/Bevy or Bonvoy Business?
July 14, 2023 -

Probably been discussed before. I need to crunch some numbers, but I assume these are standard offers - https://imgur.com/a/Gu9rdTg

  • Brilliant - $650/yr, 95k after spending $6k, 21x points, $300/yr dining credit, platinum, free night/ up to 85k, 25 elite nights, precheck credit

  • Bevy - $250/yr, 85k after spending $5k, 18.5x points, 1k/stay, gold, free night up to 50k(have to spend 15k), 15 elite nights

  • Business - $125/yr, after spending $8k, 18.5x points, gold, free night up to 35k, 7% disc, 15 elite nights

I already have a Marriott Visa, so I get a 35k/year free night and whatever points multiplier(have to look it up). I have platinum via that and actual stays this week(9 months in).

  • Brilliant - still looking to see if there are restrictions on the $300(25/month) dining credit. that's easy to meet. So then I'd be paying $350 for platinum, an 85k/night, 25 elite nights and global entry($25/yr, 4 years). So $325.

  • Bevy - downside seems to be spending the $15k. I almost definitely will, but its a gate to the free night.

  • Business - a 35k night isn't much.

Any strong thoughts?

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reddit.com › r/amex › amex platinum personal or bonvoy brilliant? have amex gold already
r/amex on Reddit: AMEX Platinum Personal or Bonvoy Brilliant? Have AMEX Gold already
January 22, 2023 -

Hello everyone,

New to the sub and did an exhaustive search on the following question. Hopefully all of you seasoned "veterans" can help!

I was pre-approved for the AMEX Platinum and Bonvoy Brilliant, and I am trying to decide which one to get. My wife will be added as an authorized user.

We currently have the Gold that we use extensively for dining and groceries. However, my wife travels quite a bit for work, and thus looking into having the Platinum or Brilliant card. She is not really devoted to any particular hotel chain, however I stay almost exclusively at Marriott properties when I travel.

We both are Mileage Plus members on United, and would prefer to keep using United as our preferred airline. We live in the midwest, and Delta airlines is a tough sell for us as United flies non-stop from our airport to many locations.

Which card would you recommend to get to compliment our AMEX Gold.

We also have the Citi Rewards Plus and AMEX Everyday Cards.

Thank you so much in advance!

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reddit.com › r/amex › bonvoy brilliant better than amex gold for "all other purchases"?
r/amex on Reddit: Bonvoy brilliant better than Amex gold for "all other purchases"?
October 4, 2024 -

Background: I travel a lot and use Marriott extensively and find great value in Bonvoy Brilliant. I have the Amex Gold for restaurants and groceries. I don't usually buy flights due to family flight benefits.

A lot of threads don't like Bonvoy Brilliant for anything other than booking Marriott. However, in the "All Other Purchases" category (phone/utility bills, subscriptions, online and retail shopping etc.) it earns 2X (Bonvoy points estimated at ~0.7cpp * 2 = 1.4cpp) versus 1X with Amex Gold (MR ~ 1.1cpp). To me, it makes sense to tie all transactions that are not grocery or restaurants, which fall in the "All Other Purchases" category, to Bonvoy Brilliant instead of gold,, if you just had these 2 cards. Am I missing something?