Yes its true, but only for a very specific set of licenses.
New clients for Office365 E1/E3/E5 and Microsoft365 E3/E5 will not include Teams.
Existing subscribers and other plans can choose if you want your license with or without teams.
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Yes its true, but only for a very specific set of licenses.
New clients for Office365 E1/E3/E5 and Microsoft365 E3/E5 will not include Teams.
Existing subscribers and other plans can choose if you want your license with or without teams.
Hello ДБТХ Нямсүрэн,
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Yes, that’s true! Microsoft has introduced new suites without Teams, which are named the same as the existing suites plus “(no Teams).” These “no Teams” suites are available in the following offers:
- Microsoft 365 E3/E5
- Office 365 E1/E3/E5
- Microsoft 365 Business Premium, Business Standard, Business Basic
- Microsoft 365 F1/F3
- Office 365 F312
Existing customers will continue to enjoy their current licensing deal that bundles Teams with Office. They also have the option to renew the deal, update or switch to new offers. So, if you’re looking for a package without Teams, you now have that option!
Kindly see the link for more information: Important Notice: Changes to Microsoft 365, Office 365, and Microsoft Teams licensing. - Microsoft Community Hub
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tl;dr -- Do the new Microsoft (No Teams) licensing changes essentially make it far less worthwhile to try to get clients to switch Office 365 providers? Isn't this just another middle finger to CSPs?
Hey MSP community,
I just learned (about a month late) about the new changes to Microsoft's Office 365 Lineup to no longer bundle Teams with any of the Office 365 Enterprise plans.
My question is this.. Say we have a customer that has a bunch of E3 licenses with another provider, and we convince them to switch to us. Wouldn't it be the case that we'd have to provision them net new licensing and charge them the new licensing scheme?
From my calculations, if we are looking at retail pricing, the new pricing is $33.75/mo (E3) + $5.25/mo (Teams Enterprise) = $39 whereas the old E3 pricing was $36.00
Since the incumbent provider is able to continue to keep them on old E3 licensing pricing, their pricing advantage would be about 8.33% for all existing licensing requiring us to cut our margin (or go negative, depending on what that margin might be)
Am I misreading this situation? Would the customer be considered then Net New if they swap providers?
Sources:
Wayback Machine Teams Pricing on Jan 1st:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240107213218/https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/enterprise/microsoft365-plans-and-pricing
Current Teams Pricing:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/enterprise/microsoft365-plans-and-pricing
MS Weasel Words?:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/news/microsoft365-teams-ww
Great question! I’d be happy to clarify the differences between Microsoft 365 Business Standard and Microsoft 365 Apps for Business, as well as their multi-device usage policies.
Multi-Device Usage:
Yes, both plans allow you to install Microsoft apps on up to 5 devices per user, including PCs, Macs, tablets, and mobile phones.
You can sign in on multiple devices simultaneously, but active usage policies may apply (e.g., concurrent editing in OneDrive).
Key Differences:
| Feature | Microsoft 365 Business Standard | Microsoft 365 Apps for Business |
|---|---|---|
| Core Office Apps | Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, OneNote, Access (PC only), Publisher (PC only) | Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, OneNote, Access (PC only), Publisher (PC only) |
| Email Hosting (Outlook + Exchange) | Yes (50GB mailbox) | No |
| Business Tools (Teams, SharePoint, OneDrive, etc.) | Yes | No |
| Web & Mobile Versions | Yes | Yes |
| Desktop Versions | Yes | Yes |
| Advanced Security & Business Features | Yes | No |
| Target Audience | Businesses needing email & collaboration tools | Businesses needing Office apps only |
Which One Should You Choose?
- If you need professional email (Outlook + Exchange) and collaboration tools like Teams & SharePoint, go with Microsoft 365 Business Standard.
- If you only need Office apps (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc.) without email hosting, then Microsoft 365 Apps for Business is a more cost-effective choice.
Hello Saumya Setia
Good morning and thanks for posting Microsoft community. I read your thread and got some background information about your script. It seems you need clarification on Microsoft 365 Business Standard and Microsoft 365 Apps for Business; let me help you to clarify this:
Microsoft 365 Business Standard and Microsoft 365 Apps for Business **** Both Microsoft 365 Business Standard and Microsoft 365 Apps for Business allow you to use a single subscription on up to five mobile devices, five tablets, and five PCs or Macs per user
Here are the key differences between the two plans:
- Microsoft 365 Business Standard:
- Includes desktop versions of Microsoft 365 apps like Outlook, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote (plus Access and Publisher for PC only).
- Offers hosted email with a 50 GB mailbox and custom email domain.
- Provides a hub for teamwork with Microsoft Teams.
- Includes 1 TB of OneDrive cloud storage per user.
- Offers around-the-clock phone and web support from Microsoft.
- Includes additional apps like Microsoft Clipchamp for video creation
- Microsoft 365 Apps for Business:
- Includes desktop versions of Microsoft 365 apps like Outlook, Word, Excel, and PowerPoint.
- Provides 1 TB of OneDrive cloud storage per user.
- Offers around-the-clock phone and web support from Microsoft
Microsoft 365 Business Standard combines powerful desktop, web, and mobile versions of apps like Word, Excel, and PowerPoint, and additional apps such as Clipchamp, along with the same services as those in Business Basic.
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@Anonymous
Microsoft Teams licensing has indeed seen some changes recently. Here's a brief overview to help clarify:
- Microsoft 365 Business Basic: Previously, this license included access to Microsoft Teams, but only via web and mobile apps. Users often faced issues when trying to use the Teams Desktop app.
- Microsoft 365 Business Standard: This license allows users to use Microsoft Teams on web, mobile, and desktop applications. It includes the full suite of Office applications both online and offline.
- Microsoft 365 Business Premium: Similar to Business Standard, this license includes access to Microsoft Teams on all platforms (web, mobile, and desktop) and offers additional security features.
- Microsoft Teams Essentials: This is a new standalone license specifically for Microsoft Teams. It provides access to Teams on web, mobile, and desktop without requiring a full Microsoft 365 suite license.
- Microsoft 365 Business Basic (without Teams): This is a new option that excludes Microsoft Teams from the Business Basic plan. It provides access to other M365 apps on web only.
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Microsoft 365 and Office 365 now offer versions without Teams, with a price decrease and the opportunity to buy Teams as a standalone offer. These changes are intended to realign Microsoft’s global subscription structure following changes made in Europe in 2023.
Hi Jason,
Greetings.
I believe that Teams service is included in Microsoft 365 Business Standard Plan. Reference for you: Compare All Microsoft 365 Plans | Microsoft.
In this case, I suggest you check if the Teams license was selected under users license list, a user who is assigned a license that includes Teams isn't eligible for the Teams Exploratory experience. Go to Microsoft 365 admin center > Users > Active users > select the affected user > Licenses > Apps > make sure Teams is selected.
In addition, when the Teams service plan is turned on, the user can sign in and use Teams. If the service plan is disabled, the user cannot sign in and the Teams Exploratory experience isn't available. Reference for you: Manage the Microsoft Teams Exploratory experience - Microsoft Teams | Microsoft Docs
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Linda
Thank you! I did not realize about selecting different apps. This was quick and easy to fix.