I've heated the tool or needle nose up and sunk them into the nut to get them out. One of the worst designs out there. If you get it out, silicone grease is your friend with the new one. I've taken to taking apart all new faucets and greasing the shit out of them so I can repair them later. Answer from nameajeff on reddit.com
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r/Plumbing on Reddit: Moen cartridge nut chewed up, how do I get it out now?
September 28, 2021 -

How do I get this Moen "cartridge nut" out now that it is all chewed up? I would have called it a bushing but Moen calls it a "cartridge nut." Moen sent me that metal cylinder tool to assist replacing the cartridge (Moen 1224) but I need to back that plastic cartridge nut out with the metal tool but I promptly broke the teeth off the nut and now I've got a mess on my hands. Any suggestions on how to get the nut out so I can pull the cartridge out and replace?

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Take a drill and smallest bit you can find, or a Dremel if you happen to have one, and carefully cut the retainer clip out by removing it in pieces. You could also melt it out with a torch if all else fails, get it hot so that it becomes malleable enough to pull out. Both options will very likely fuck up the cartridge, but I'm assuming you were planning on replacing that anyway. I understand the plumber's reluctance. He wants to sell you a new valve because then all of the new connections are his, he knows how they went together and can own it if there's an issue. So far all he has done is mangle the retainer ring, which is plastic and can be replaced. He knows that, he knows he can replace the cartridge if he mangles that too. But he probably wants to avoid the possibility of damaging the valve body itself and then being responsible for replacing the entire valve in the end. He would much rather get paid for that, instead of pay for that. I've done such extractions after selling a new valve. I make a deal that if they go with my quote for a new valve, I will make one final attempt at repair with the understanding that if I destroy the valve in the process, it was going to be replaced anyway and no love is lost.
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I had the same problem but I got thru this easily. I used the soldering iron with LONG AND SKINNY needle, turn it to highest temperature (400-450F) then melted/cut the retainer ring into 4 pieces then remove them then remove the cartridge. Does not take long, use must use a long and skinny neddle to get into this tight space.
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Replacing Moen 1248 Cartridge - retainer nut stuck | DIY Home Improvement, Remodeling & Repair Forum
June 6, 2023 - I couldn't turn the water on in the entire house until I figured out how to get the cartridge to stay. I actually ended up taking a new retaining nut, super gluing the remains of the old nut to it and installing it upside down. Now I couldn't get the handle on because the nut stuck out of the pipe but I could turn the water on.
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I have a Moen bathroom sink faucet Model Number 4570. It has been in place for about 25 years. I am the original owner. The cold water faucet finally failed and I ordered new parts from Moen (the cartridge plus various adapters and also their tool to aid in removing a cartridge nut. After removing the faucet handle and the cartridge nut, I then tried to extract the cartridge using needle nosed pliers as per the Moen instructions. After being in place for 25 years, it did not want to budge (not surprising).

I then looked on the internet to see if anyone else had experienced this problem and it looks like it has been a common problem. I read all the suggestions and tried putting vinegar on it to no avail. I was impressed with one proposal from an engineer in which he suggested attacking it from the underside by disconnecting the tubing and inserting a 5/8” rod and tapping it with a hammer.

I am 82 years old (also a retired engineer) and I did not feel like getting under the sink. I then tried to attack it from the top. I fashioned a loop out of some old pipe strap I had and I was able to attach the loop to the top of the cartridge with the screw that is used to attach the top extension to the cartridge. I then fashioned a lever arrangement using a block of wood and the lever that goes on my floor jack. See the attached photos. With this arrangement, the cartridge just popped out with very little effort.

Here is a photo of the Pipe Strap loop that I attached to the top of the cartridge. This photo shows the cartridge after extraction.

This photo shows the arrangement of the lever with the cartridge still in the housing.

I added some extra silicone to the two “O” rings on the new cartridge and then inserted the cartridge and finished the job. The valve turns extremely easily – maybe I did not need the extra silicone. Moen was very helpful in sending the parts (at no charge since I was the original owner).

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There is a cartridge removal tool you can use, I have never failed to get a cartridge out when resorting to it:

You can often borrow or rent this tool from a reputable plumbing shop (note importance of "plumbing shop", don't even waste your time at the big-box stores). There are other tools you will see, but they do not work as well as the one pictured.

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June 14, 2021 - I'm not understanding what you are calling the "plastic cartridge nut". What piece is stripped? A better version of the diagram can be found here. ... Hi. The nut would be 97479 (bottom of the 3 arrows). I used the Moen tool (14272] to unscrew the nut . I think replacing the cartridge before and attempting again stripped the nut.
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Expert Solutions for Removing a Stuck Moen 1224 Cartridge | JustAnswer Plumbing
To remove a stuck Cartridge 1224, first shut off water supply. Apply penetrating oil around the cartridge nut and let it sit for 15-20 minutes. Use an adjustable wrench or locking pliers to gently turn the nut counterclockwise.
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Moen Faucet Retention Nut Stuck? Expert Fix & Guide
Customer: It was leaking, which is why we're replacing the 1224 cartridge. Contractor's Assistant: Here's what I'll inform the plumber and the next steps: You can't remove the stuck retention nut on your Moen faucet.
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October 16, 2021 - Remove the screw and the red handle adapter and take another pic. Moen makes tool to remove the internal retainer nut.
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Best way to remove 37 y/o stuck Moen faucet cartridge casing | DIY Home Improvement Forum
With the spool out you will have to keep the tool centerd on the sleeve while you use a wrench and turn the tool back and forth until the sleeve breaks free. You will feel the tool flex so don't turn too hard and just work it back and forth ...
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November 4, 2011 - If you have the water off AND your sure your have the correct new cartridge you can give the valve a little heat to help soften things up a touch. Use a heat gun with caution Please rate this response and good luck, Phil ...
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MOEN Cartridge Retainer Removal Tool for 2-Handle Faucet 179120
This Cartridge Retainer Removal Tool was designed to remove the cartridge nuts in your 2-handle MOEN faucet. Featuring a durable metal construction, it boasts a polished chrome finish for lasting strength and durability. For shower and tub application.
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Expert Answers on Moen 161757, Caldwell & Shower Valve Replacement Parts
To remove a damaged Moen cartridge nut, first turn off water supply. Use penetrating oil on the nut to loosen corrosion. Grip the nut with adjustable pliers or a strap wrench to avoid further damage.
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Moen 1224 Cartridge Removal Tool with Handle for 14272/1234/1248, Cartridge Retainer Puller Faucet Remover for Moen Bathtub and Faucet Repair
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Expert Solutions for Removing Moen 1224 Cartridge and Phylrich Roman Tub Fillers
These modifications do not change the intent or substance of the original messages. ... After removing the retaining nut, stuck 1224 cartridges usually resist removal because of mineral deposits or corrosion.