Hey,

I want to build a PC using the MSI MPG B650I Edge WIFI and the 7800x3D. Any of you used this MB? What were your experiences?

By the way - did you manage to run the DDR5 at 6000? What RAM kits did you use?

Thanks

I'm creating a list of parts to buy and right now I'm wondering about the mobo.

I've read quite a few bad reviews but also quite a few good reviews. The bad ones complain about things like:

1. Not being able to use faster (6000) RAM

2. Being able to, but at the cost of way slower boot times

3. Over voltage in USB posts

4. The CMOS battery being dead because the button was pressed during shipping

5. Other stuff I can't remember right now

Some of the other users point out that they don't face any of these problems but many of these posts (both bad and good reviews) are at least 1 year old.

Bottom line, for anyone who has this motherboard, have these issues been resolved? Edit: a word.

Looking to buy an mitx mobo and this board is on sale where I am (£160). I’ve see a mix of reviews with some saying it’s good and some saying it’s not reliable, most of these are recent so I’m not sure if this is a legitimate concern with the board or if as not a new board most of these post around it will only be if it goes wrong.

Thanks in advance!

I bought an MSI MPG B650I EDGE WIFI motherboard to move to a mini-ITX setup, but right now my PC sits at around 70°C at idle and goes up to 95°C while gaming.

For the case, I’m using the Cooler Master NCORE 100 MAX (it comes with a pre-installed PSU and liquid cooler). The motherboard is so small that I’m honestly confused about where to connect the exhaust fan, the AIO fan, and the pump cables.

Is there anyone who could explain it using photos or diagrams, showing exactly where each cable should go on this motherboard?

Thanks in advance!

I bought this motherboard because it was the only available ITX option in my country. But if regret could kill, I'd be long gone.
This board barely managed to output video a few times. In some cases, it stayed on for two days without issues. But out of nowhere, it shut down, the DRAM and CPU LEDs lit up, and it simply refused to boot again.
After about a hundred attempts—clearing the CMOS, switching the RAM stick to the second slot, updating the BIOS, etc.—it finally turned on. But after a few hours of use, it shut down again.
And once more, I had to go through the whole painful process, just maybe to get it to boot again.
I’ve already tested the PSU — it's fine. Checked the CMOS battery voltage — also fine. Tested the CPU, a Ryzen 7 7700, in another motherboard — no issues. Tried other DDR5 sticks — no difference.

Owners of MSI b650i edge boards, would you recommend them to others?

Why/why not?

Doing a white build, and seems options are some random Chinese B650i boards with anaemic VRMs, the MSI edge, or wait for Gigabyte X870i to release and pay a trillion dollars for it.

Edit: There are several valid criticisms of my review in the comments. Read them. They may help paint a less gloomy image of the product.

Edit: title should've said "building with this". But you can't change it. Ah well.

TL;DR 5/10. No immediate deal breakers like coil whine or anything like that, but MSI will fight you every step of the way.

It's a barely acceptable board, no more. No coil whine that I can detect so there's that.

Badly protected: The board's retail box is a cardboard box inside which there's a cardboard tray, and the board was actually loose in it in the Z ("height") axis. I could see where it had banged against the cardboard in transit. I'm all for eco-friendly packaging, but you still have to protect your product. It wasn't broken, but it could've been.

The VRM heatsink/I/O shield assembly is so large it interferes with the cooler (in my case, a Noctua NH-U12A). I'm lucky my Corsair Vengeance 5200 RAM was just low profile enough to rotate my cooler and overhang the RAM instead. And I do mean JUST low enough. It literally touches the fans.

If my RAM didn't have that flexibility, I would've had to accept a 1-2 mm air gap in the top of the cooler where the fan is blowing into nothing.

Also MSI put the front panel and HD audio headers on the far back of the board for some reason. And they're so close to the PCIe slot that I had to run the cables above it if I didn't want the cables to interfere with the graphics card. WHY?!

Most importantly, they were so close to the slot that the plastic sleeve that Cooler Master put on the connectors to fuse them into one (my case is an NR200) was interfering with my graphics card (EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 Ultra Gaming)'s backplate and I had to remove the convenient sleeve and plug the tiny connectors in separately with tweezers. Not a good time.

Also there's only one case fan header, and it's on the bottom. That's the case for most Mini ITX boards, but it would certainly have been a saving grace if it had 2. The header in the bottom is just far enough that you need an extension on top of a splitter to use a Noctua fan in the top of the case, which is a lot of cables and connectors to shove between your CPU cooler and your RAM.

Edit: turns out, the only thing keeping you from using the CPU pump header as a fan header is the default fan curve. If you change the curve, you actually have two case fan headers. One in the top, one in the bottom. That actually negates a lot of the above paragraph. Thanks, commenters!

There are debug LEDs on the board. But they're in a spot where they're almost always going to be hidden by the CPU cooler unless maybe if you water-cool, and even then. They should've put them on their absolutely excessive VRM heatsinks or chipset fan instead. They're just bare metal and mostly a waste of space considering how massive they are.

The BIOS doesn't show a screen with shortcuts "press X for UEFI" at all by default, and if you ask it to, you'll see the screen for 0.5 second with no way to lengthen it. Realistically you'll be mashing the Del key that you googled because there's no way you can read it and the time allotted to press it is very short.

One good thing is that MSI Center is miles ahead of ASUS AI Suite. It doesn't feel like straight up bloatware. It works and the interface isn't completely stupid.

Fan curve adjustment works relatively well, except that you can't add/remove anchor points and that while dragging one, accidentally going out of bounds makes you "drop" the point, making it difficult to, say, adjust at which point the fan should reach 100%. It could certainly be improved, but it's the best Windows motherboard software I've seen so far.

Notably its auto fan adjustment tool refuses to set any case fan to less than 50%, ever, which gives a pretty loud result if you don't customize it.

Edit: So it turns out that MSI Center's fan control also kinda sucks after trying it for a few days. It would sometimes forget my custom curves for all fans, randomly, and any preset I set to the chipset fan would never survive reboot. And sometimes it would also lose control of the chipset fan entirely, allowing it to run at 100% for 10 seconds.

I wasn't aware that it was a thing initially, but just use Fan Control, an open source app that works a lot better.

I can't find AMD Eco Mode in the BIOS. It should be there, but you can only fiddle with advanced CPU settings to emulate it or use the single toggle in Ryzen Master that doesn't even tell you which target TDP you're using.

You can also ask Ryzen Master to automatically tune Eco Mode for you, but it doesn't say what that does apart from apparently running your CPU and fans at full blast for... 1 day, 7 hours??

Anyway, point is, Eco mode 105W/65W/etc. should be in the BIOS.

There seems to be no way to simply update the BIOS through the Internet like most modern motherboards have. You have to download a file to a FAT32 USB key and flash manually. The process feels very 2008.

Finally, I hoped that by now there would be BIOS updates to fix the issue where boot takes 40+ seconds to train memory but apparently not.

Edit, several months later: it took a very long time, but as of summer 2023, the issue was finally fixed with an AGESA update that mentioned something about memory.

5/10, would return and buy something else if the idea of starting my build over wasn't so daunting and if there were actually any other decent boards at reasonable prices.

But turns out, if you're building now, it's this or ASRock. Swallow the pain and deal with MSI's inconvenient stuff or wait and hope that Asus has a good offering soon.

Bonus: Pictures of my CPU cooler struggles

• I/O shield + VRM heatsink conflict

• Fan overhang

• Fan overhang, front view

• After rotating the cooler, it's resting on my RAM.

So here is a pretty summed up review about the MSI B650-i edge wifi,
My PC specs: Ryzen 9800x3d, MSI B650-I, XPG Lancer Blade-32gb 6000mhz, XPG gammix s70, Deepcool CH170 Cabinet, Cooler Master SMPS v750SFX gold.

Got my board on November 2024, the board is overall Ok, it has all the basic features a mini-itx board should have but there are very minimal downsides.

>CPU Socket is placed higher

>Noisy NVME heat-sink fan

There is another issue i am facing which is not specifically on this board but on every itx board i have tested so far abuzzing noise via 3.5mm audio output (both rear and header for front panel) on high GPU usage. Have visited the service center where they test the systems with their below basic Logitech over the headphones which doesn't really sensitive to the buzzing as it doesn't have good audio quality to begin with. The observations are after swapping almost every component (RAM,GPU). The headphones i am using are Apple Earpods (3.5mm), Sony MDR-XB450, Boat wired basic also have tried via connecting speaker. However there is no issue while i connect the same earphones via type c dongle. I have already tried 2 MSI B650-I edge boards and a Asus B650-I, they both have the same issue.
I am very disappointed to have a solid build yet can't even connect a 3.5mm earphone to enjoy gaming or any heavy gpu task. And i find it very weird that no one is actually bringing this up, makes me wonder if something is wrong from my end but i have already tested two boards. Also if anyone has the same issue do reach out.

>CPU Socket is placed higher: Although the motherboard is compatible with most of the coolers as other itx boards but due to CPU socket being on the higher on the motherboard if you case doesn't have enough space and it has a radiator on top(Deepcool CH 170 with 1 slim fan and 1 25mm fan on rad ), most of the water blocks might not fit.

I'm posting here hoping to see if anyone else has experienced these issues. I've seen some people describe somewhat similar issues I am having, but not to the extremes that I am experiencing.

I first received my B650I Edge WiFi almost exactly 1 year ago, January 5, 2023. Out of the box the motherboard worked great with my 7700x. PBO + Curve resulted in nearly 5.5ghz all core / 5.75ghz single core boost clocks, my 6000MT/S CL32 DDR5 was totally stable, and so seemed everything else. After the high SoC voltage debacle, I decided I would update my bios to the new 7D73v132 beta bios avoid that. Huge mistake. Issues began immediately. I thought maybe the update didn't go well, so I updated the BIOS (to the same version) a few times and both via the Flash button on the rear of the board (MSI.ROM filename) as well as the M-Flash method inside the BIOS. This did not seem to fix my issues. Long story short, over time and updating to newer BIOS releases, my issues have grown in number as well as severity (each new bios seemed to increase occurrence/severity of issues). My issues are as follows:

PC hangs often during POST before boot often and at random.

One or a few BIOS settings will revert or get lost at random. (change back to auto/disabled, per core curve settings will get lost most often and revert back to disabled)

PC hangs often while changing BIOS settings or while just sitting in BIOS.

After PC hangs during BIOS or settings get lost/revert, EXTREMELY long boot times. 4.5 minutes to boot to Windows, over 4 minutes to see BIOS splash screen.

PBO Curve Maximum values went from +/-30 originally to +/-100 and finally to +/-250 after updating to newer BIOS versions.

It has gotten so bad that changing settings or even using the BIOS has become more than a chore and basically unusable. I can't wait 4+ minutes to see the bios splash screen only to have the bios hang up again to go through another 4+ minute wait to get in to the bios...just to have it happen all over again for however many times in a row it might happen.

I ordered a new, different, ITX motherboard tonight so I am attempting to fix my issues. I flashed the latest bios 3 times in a row about 2 hours ago. Once using the Flash button with the MSI.ROM file / USB in the Flash Bios port and twice using M-Flash in the bios. This has resulted in the board behaving mostly normal since with me being able to change settings without any hangs and normal boot times. This is by far the most normal it has behaved since I first updated the BIOS, but it's been a very short time so I'm not very trusting that it will last. Hopefully it does and I can cancel/return the new board, but I just don't have that kind of faith after 8 months of dealing with this mess over multiple BIOS versions.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this with this board? I've seen some variations of my issues from people claiming their board showed up with a dead battery due to the way the clear bios button can be hit over and over during shipping, but nothing to the extreme that I have experienced.

System Specs:

MSI MPG B650I Edge Wifi

Ryzen 7700x w/ DeepCool LT520 240mm AIO

32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6000MT/S CL 36 (F5-6000J3636F16GA2-TZ5S) > 32GB Kingston Fury Renegade RGB 6400 MT/S CL32 (KF564C32RSAK2-32)

1TB Adata Legend 840 PCIe Gen4 NVME M.2 SSD

MSI RTX 3090 TI Suprim X

Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000w

Meshroom S Case

Windows 11 Pro

Looked up a few threads with the CMOS battery arriving dead and BIOS settings not being saved when losing power.

Is this an isolated issue, or is this widespread? What has your experience been with this AMD Am5 board?

Hi,
My setup:

• Motherboard: MPG B650i Edge Wifi
  BIOS: e7d73ams.130 by 05/24/2023

• CPU: Ryzen 7600X

• RAM: G.Skill DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000Mhz Flare X5
  (F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5)

Issue:
In short, I'm currently running my RAM at 4800MHz because my PC freezes when I enable EXPO. I'm curious about the RAM and BIOS you have.

Additional context:

I've noticed several stability improvements in the latest BIOS updates, but I'm uncertain about which one to try.

I reached out to MSI support, and they suggested installing version 7D73v181 (Beta). However, I haven't found much information about this version.

Additionally, when checking the QVL on G.Skill's website, it confirms compatibility between the motherboard and RAM. However, on MSI's website, this particular RAM model is not listed.

Any insights or advice on which BIOS version to try would be greatly appreciated.

I've found a few forum posts of people having issues with this motherboard and I also have the issue where if I turn on EXPO or XMP the motherboard will fail to boot, sometimes it will boot but if I restart then it'll fail again with the DRAM LED on.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1489344-msi-b650i-ez-debug-led-on-every-boot/

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/cpu-dram-light-on-msi-mpg-b650i.3803485/

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/mobo-debug-light-everytime-i-turn-on-pc.382937/

I've reseated the CPU, RAM, tried a different set of RAM, tried a different cooler, different PSU, tried the v12 and v133 BIOS, tried setting "Memory Context Restore" to true. Nothing works.

Motherboard works fine without XMP/EXPO enabled. Does anyone know of a fix before I send the motherboard back and never buy an MSI product again?

Edit 1: Have ordered a different motherboard (ASUS ROG STRIX B650E Gaming Wifi) to see if there's an issue with this one, should be here tomorrow. Will update then.

Edit 2: ASUS motherboard works great, thankfully the CPU works fine. The issue was with the motherboard, will probably be staying away from MSI for the forseeable future. Thanks to everyone who provided help.

So, recently I started to pick parts to assemble PC, and now I'm a bit confused about MB and RAM.
Few internet pages says that this motherboard have only 64GB support, others - 96. Who can explain it?

What parts I'm wanna put into ITX PC for 3d, render, AI and streaming:
CPU: R9 7950x
MB: MSI MPG B650i EDGE WIFI
RAM: G.Skill DDR5 96GB (2x48GB) 6400Mhz Trident Z5 RGB Silver
PSU: Asus ROG Loki SFX-L 1000W Platinum
Liquid AIO: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240
Case: Phanteks Evolv Shift XT