Hi everyone! We just closed on a house and are looking into getting a fire table for the backyard. We see that there are generally two options - propane and natural gas. I did some research and want to go with natural gas because I don’t need to run to the store to buy gas.

With that said, how do I know if my backyard has a natural gas source to hook up to the table? We have natural gas heating & stove inside the house. Any help would be appreciated - thanks!

I am trying to convert a fire table to natural gas. The fire table used propane but would suck down bottles after just a few nights.

I ran a gas line to the table and have everything connected however the flame is way too weak. There is a fitting which contains a red dot located right near the base of the burner element on the outside of the bowl.

When I blew through the valve the flow did NOT seem restricted. The line which is feeding this fire table also feeds a natural gas grill which functions just fine.

My question is what could be causing such a small flame. I ordered a hose and regulator kit from Amazon and took off the regulator believing that perhaps it was slowing the flow down too much. Spoiler, it was not... Any ideas or should I just go back to using the propane tank and looking into getting a larger one.

Here is the red dot fitting: https://imgur.com/a/zvbLBNi

We have been trying to find a decent fire pit table for our deck. The natural gas options are much more limited than propane and are significantly more expensive. I have seen conversion kits for barbecues before to turn propane burning ones to natural gas. Is it possible to do the same thing to a fire table?

Help! I’ve purchased a propane patio fire pit, and converted to natural gas. Hooked it straight to the natural gas stub out on my patio (no regulator. the hose the pit came with had a regulator on it, but it was for propane). So I got a longer hose, and it doesn’t have a regulator on it. It works, but the flame is very small. What could it be?

We are going to have a gas line run to our outdoor fire table which will sit on top of concrete that is yet to be poured. Was wondering if there’s a way for to me to put conduit in as the concrete will happen before a plumber is able to actually run the gas line. If so what kind of kind of conduit will work? If not possible, I will just run the line myself at least under the concrete and have the plumber hook it up when he gets time. What kind of line can I run underground and can it be same type of line run in my house or do I need to change the line type once it gets indoors?

I'm trying to find a natural gas fire table we can use for dining (6-8 person), but one that can be upgraded to natural gas. We have used propane in the past and got tired of constant tank changes. We upgraded our deck and have since piped NG line to our grill and LOVE it. We would love to do this with a fire table as well for outdoor dining but I can't for the life of me find a dining table that is convertible. I can find stand-alone, long, fire pits that can be upgraded, but nothing for the dining tables.

This is the type of table I'm talking about: https://www.bbqguys.com/i/3108600/darlee/brooklyn-9-piece-aluminum-patio-dining-set-w-60-inch-square-propane-fire-pit-dining-table-sesame-cushions

I could just change the orifice on a propane-style table, but not really my comfort zone if it's not made for it. That was all I had to do for our grill.

Thanks for your help/suggestions!

We have been contemplating renovating our backyard for some time. We hemmed an hawed through the summer with no progress. Now that it is getting cooler I’m really wishing that we had installed the fire pit I really wanted. An easier alternative is to just get a fire table / seating combo, but my husband says it will not give off enough warmth. For reference the one I am looking at says it will give off 55,000 BTU, and I live in So Cal where it will likely be used in high 50’s to mid 60’s weather. Is it worth it to buy a fire table or stick with the patio heaters?

I have a small natural gas fire pit on my roof deck. It claims to put out 40,000 BTU, which is the same as many other models that I see. But my experience is that unless you lean over very near it, you don't really feel warm.

https://www.allmodern.com/outdoor/pdp/latitude-12-h-fiber-reinforced-concrete-outdoor-fire-pit-table-a000507417.html?piid=1814874165

Is there anything out there that would recreate the warmth of a wood fire? I'd like to be able to feel warmth coming from the fire if I'm sitting right next to it.

I recently converted my old fire pit from propane to NG. Luckily, I found the orifice that had come with the original fire pit for a NG conversion, so that part was easy. But I was still getting a lot of blue flames coming from the burner. I realized that if I cover the two ventilation holes at the bottom of the burner stem where the orifice shoots the gas, I get the yellow flames I want. Is this dangerous or acceptable? My understanding is that propane gas is heavier than air and requires those ventilation holes, but it may be ok to cover them up when using natural gas to get the yellow flames. Thanks

I am looking at firepit options for when we landscape in the spring but not really sure what I’m looking for; originally I wanted a wood smokeless fire pit but we have a gravel area between the house and the fence (9ft x 10ft) that we’re thinking of using instead. As far as I can tell our 5ft all around clearance should suffice?

I would like something that gives out a good amount of heat so we can actually sit out there on a colder evening somewhat comfortably (our old Walmart fire table was terrible for this) propane is obviously more common/cheaper but I do have the option to run a natural gas line fairly easily so it’s an option.

We recently purchased a home that has an outdoor fire pit that is connected for natural gas. We are trying to get it running and need some help. On the side of the house there is a red valve that was closed and there is a valve key to turn on the key. When opening the red valve and opening the key valve, gas does not flow. Is there another step?

It has to be natural gas due to various fire code and zoning things that I won't get into. We do have a hookup in the exterior of our home for this.

I am looking for durability and safety. After a bit of googling, I read some terrifying reviews about like the fake rocks exploding and burning holes in people's couches, or the surrounding materials cracking under heat etc. so I thought I would ask for recommendations of tried and true ones.

Edit: Specifically looking for a fire table like this type (although I know West Elm is decidedly not BIFL) https://www.westelm.com/products/mp-rutland-rectangle-fire-pit-table-h12527/ not like a thing where you can cook food on top of.

So as the title states I'm doing research for a natural gas fire pit. I have a gas line for my pool heater near where I want to build the fire pit so I planned on extending this for the fire pit (my BIL is a plumber so he would help with gas piping). After looking into it, it seems way more expensive to build my own with landscape blocks, purchase a burner table, burner controls, burner than to just by one already assembled. Am I going about this wrong?

See links I am referencing:

52 landscape blocks for a 36" firepit

38" burner table

30" burner

I’m well over a thousand dollars and this isn’t even including the rocks to fill the pan, material for gas pipe, etc. Anyone have experience with this?

I'm not sure if this is the most appropriate place to post this so sorry in advance.

We have a Napoleon PatioFlame round natural gas fire pit which we purchased off Amazon and an "onlyfire All-in-One Natural Gas Fire Pit Ignition System Kit" that we installed ourselves (just the fire pit and ignition system kit, not the natural gas line). I've seen videos of our model of fire pit on YouTube and pictures on the internet. The flames we are getting on our fire pit look nothing like those found on the internet and it's been frustrating trying to fix it. Our flames are intense, they are very blue and shoot straight up about a foot, maybe a foot and a half. The flame is blue most of that distance then quickly dies out. Because the flames are so intense if there is any sun out you can hardly tell the fire pit is on. You need almost complete darkness to see the flames clearly. There is also an audible hiss when it is on which I don't hear in videos I've watched.

I'm thinking the problem might be in the ignition system kit or the gas line. However, I'm not sure. Sorry I don't have a more technical or better worded explanation of what's happening. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Thank you!

We want to get a propane fire pit table and seeing some great deals on wayfair but to be honest the price's there are making us a bit skeptical. Knowing how they delivered our bed a few years ago we were wondering if anyone has had a good experience in the past with them fire tables. TIA!

Edit: Also if you have any propane fire pit table suggestions, I would be more than happy to hear!

This is it with the propane set-up. Between the silver hose at the top and the burner assembly is a male flare with an oriface.

I have a natural gas line and regulator, would I just attach that to the control valve where the propane in the picture is currently attached, then swap the oriface from a propane one to an NG one?