So, I've been vibe coding like a machine for the past two weeks using OpenCode. I've used it for two projects: a large intricate project that is very complex, with a Kimi K2.5 API, and for a small project just to stress test GLM 4.7 Flash, llama.cpp. At this point I've done all the torturing GLM 4.7 Flash that I'm interested in and I want to set GPT-OSS-120b to work on my bigger project but it keeps crashing OpenCode, there is an issue on their Github regarding the error.
So, I'm considering moving to OpenClaw and trying that out but if I'm being honest, all of the hype for OpenClaw lately makes it feel scammy...and I'm not a real coder so I kind of need that OpenCode feel lol. Anyone using OpenClaw right now? How does it compare?
Where does openclaw outperform claude code and opencode?
OpenClaw vs OpenCode - I'm still trying to figure out the claw use case.
Do you use opencode with openclaw? Or other agentic loops?
OpenCode vs OpenClaw? Not a sales pitch or bot...
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To me openclaw is just an highly unsecured tool if poorly configed, and burning tons of token to execute task that seems to be easily done with vibe-coded scheduled scripts/workflows. It is also unpredictable by storing context and memory in three markdown files that it updates itself, with potential tool/skills overflow if user just let it vibe and run anything automatically.
While using agentic coding tools, I can create clearly documented modular workflow, proper prompt guard and protections, and pack these workflow into cli command and documentation for AI reference, or I can create an MCP of this.
What's the edge of openclaw except for enabling chatting via daily apps like whatsapp/telegram?
So, I've played around with OpenClaw for a bit, and I must confess, while it does have advantages like Telegram connection and other stuff, I really don't see more value than just using OpenCode. Again, yes, OpenClaw has advantages, clearly, but those advantages don't seem that great when I can do most of my agent tasks on OpenCode. I simply give OpenCode access to the whole computer, and it pretty much does what OpenClaw does. I just have to communicate with OpenCode through a terminal, which I made a web UI for so I can just use a simple web UI that does the terminal talk for me. So, I am just using a web UI on the local network to command my agent to do stuff on my computer and on the browser, on the web. Again, I'm just confused or perhaps ignorant about how OpenClaw will make things much better, not just a little better, than simply using OpenCode, which is so easy to set up and get going, to be honest. I fail to understand the use case, I guess, for my case. What do you guys think?
I like OpenFlow. I still try to use it and play with it. Don't get me wrong, it's a great little piece of tech.
I like 'opencode web' and cli but i'd like to access to it via telegram. Did you find a clean way to integrate it? also with a cron scheduler?