If you brought facts, we could discuss about them. If you bring your bias and the incapability of reading basic data, I'm afraid your benching career will easily follow the userbenchmark one. Which could also make you happy, who knows. Answer from leoneazzurro on forums.anandtech.com
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6 PBO settings you can change to make your Ryzen CPU run even faster
March 29, 2025 - This increases the Failure In Time, or FIT, value of your processor. In short, it allows you to feed more voltage to the CPU if you're less concerned with longevity, potentially leading to better ...
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Tom's Hardware
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D: Integrated GPU Benchmarks, Overclocking and Test Setup - AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: AMD Retakes Gaming Crown with 3D V-Cache - Page 5 | Tom's Hardware
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: AMD Retakes Gaming Crown with 3D V-Cache
Ryzen 9 7950X3D PBO/UV: Corsair H115i 280mm water cooler, Precision Boost Overdrive (Advanced/Motherboard), Scalar 10X, -25 Curve Optimizer, DDR5-6000 EXPO (Coupled Mode), Silicon lottery and cooling performance impact overhead -- YMMV AMD takes a bite out of Raptor Lake.
Rating: 4.5 ​
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reddit.com › r/amd › 7950x3d short review from actual home user. + pbo and co guide/referance
r/Amd on Reddit: 7950X3D short review from actual home user. + PBO and CO guide/referance
March 28, 2023 -

Due to major controversial of this CPU regarding how it's "work". This review will focus on my using experience of the CPU. No benchmark, No FPS, No Rendering Time/score.

Tldr;

For gamer, this CPU suck and overpriced in “Price Per Performance” POV, just simply wait for 7800x3d especially if you have waited for this long.

For hardware enthusiast, This is the best CPU. it's so fun tweaking it as much as actually using it.

For everyone, This CPU is working just fine. literally Zero performace problem outside of overclocking process. Overall performance is incredible.

Recently, this CPU get so may complain on how it's so hard to get it to work properly. People are concerned that average user might not comforable to go through all the requirement. Well, this concern is true. But in my view, The point of the problem is not that it's hard to do everything correctly because each steps are fairly simple. The point of this problem is “ how do I know if right now, while I am gaming that my CPU is working as intended” Even there is not problem and my games are running smooth and all but then "is it working on correct CCD?" Yes, These questions could be answered by simply put some 3rd party app like HWinfo and such, but I am talking for average users. There are gamers who doesn’t know anything about hardware that going in bios to enable XMP can raise their heart's rate. That's why this CPU is bad for average gamers. But to be fair, In my opinion if someone are spending 700 USD for a CPU they are unlikely to not knowledgeble about hardware at all.

For Enthusiast you don't really need my review, just go for it. This CPU working fine it's do it job properly, it's NOT a mess like youtubers trying to say.

My Short Overclock Guide

note : Undervolting is not as easy as youtuber show you, unless you want to run unstable system.

  1. *First thing you want to do is Finish your RAM Overclocking if you will of cause.

  2. Set PBO to -Enable

  3. Enable Curve Optimizer > Per Core (Don't use All cores or you will learn the true meaning Asymmetric CCD in hard way ) > set Signs to Negative for every core

  4. Undervolting the cores in group of 4, use 'Corecyler + Y crusher' for stability test.CCD0 are more sensitive to undervolting (at least for my Unit) So Slowly increase the negative value (2-3 mv for each runCCD1 are just like previous cores, I start at Negative 10 and increase negative value 5 at a time.

  5. After you done Stabilizing go increase Max Clock Overide (Fmax) slowly and Track your "Effetive Core Clock" and make sure these is no stretching on any cores (Efective clock drop significantly during all core work load)

  6. If core stretching occur, reduce your Max Clock Vaule by 25. then re test the CPU.[NEVER LOWER YOUR NEGATIVE CURVE OPTIMIZER FOR HIGH FMAX]

it's proven that the optimal overclocking for best performace is to Prioritize Undervolting > Fmax

Stabilizing Guide

To Stablize CCD0 cores it's took me 5 days. but only 2 days for CCD1 cores

  1. Requirement : Using CoreCycler + Y-Crusher with some aid from build in Windows Event Viewer

  2. After Each change of Undervolting value you Run the 4 cores in CoreCycler for 30 Minutes "each core" , each "Test" Should have at least "3 Runs" So each test need 6 hours (Run = Iteration)

  3. Check error report in Corecycler, it's will tell if and what core having problem

  4. Then Check Eventviwer, Look for WHEA logger. Look up the Time of errors

  5. Go to Corecyler's Log report

  6. See what core is running during the WHEA logger's time = That core is also have problem

  7. Reduce the Negative Value in Curve Optimizer for "Problem" Cores

  8. Repeat this untill you no longer see any Error report and Whea logger

  9. Validating : Run everycore in CoreCycler for 2 hours Each core for 2 iterations(You can split the test for Even and Odd cores)

  10. Only after you pass the Step 9 then you could touch "Max Clock Overide"

My unit runing at

Curve Optimizer

Core 0 : -6
Core 1 : -8
Core 2 : -0
Core 3 : -16
Core 4 : -9
Core 5 : -16
Core 6 : -20
Core 7 : -20

Core 8 : -23
Core 9 : -20
Core 10 : -35
Core 11 : -28
Core 12 : -20
Core 13 : -22
Core 14 : -35
Core 15 : -35
(I am done at -35 cuz I am lazy)

Max Clock Overide : +200mhz
(Remember, your CO is priority, some might not able to achive +200 after CO but That's fine. Not really much of real world difference even at +0 vs +200, as long as you properly Undervolting in Truly Stable state)

PBO : Enable Global C state : Enable

Cooler : 280 AIO

https://www.3dmark.com/cpu/1120115

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Reddit
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r/Amd on Reddit: 7950x3d PBO settings?
July 18, 2023 -

I just got a 7950x3d and put it in an 11 litre case. I know that sounds a bit crazy. I was wondering if a 7950x3d is normally running in a normal ATX setup, not in such a harsh cooling situation. What clock speed should I have? I was constantly at 4.7 on cache ccd and 4.5 ish on frequency ccd, I feel like that's a bit too low? Since my thermal is not even exceeding 75. I am just curious if there is any suggestion for me to squeeze out more performance from this little monster, but not make the thermal insane.

Here are my PBO settings:

Core 0 -30
Core 1 -15 (My fastest core based on ryzen master)
Core 2 -30
Core 3 -30
Core 4 -30
Core 5 -20 (My 2nd fast core)
Core 6 -30
Core 7 -30

For frequency ccd, I didn't do anything to it.

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Overclock.net
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[Official] Zen 4 X3D Owner's Club (7800x3D / 7900x3D / 7950x3D) | Page 100 | Overclock.net
7800x3d I wanted to do a test so I removed the core boost performance which makes the CPU is at 4.2 GHZ so I used the ebclk at 117.2500 which makes 4.925 GHZ the LLC has lvl 8 and I pushed the pbo curve is +60 for which remains stable the voltage does not exceed 1,000 in games the cpu remains fixed at 4,925 GHZ the multithreaded cinebench score is 19k
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Steam Community
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Steam Community :: Guide :: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D: overlocking
January 31, 2024 - Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar Ctrl - Auto (here we set the PBO multiplier, leave it on auto otherwise it is set to 1x-10x)
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Tom's Hardware
tomshardware.com › pc components › cpus
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D: Power Consumption, Efficiency, Test Setup, and Overclocking - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Review: New Gaming Champ Beats Pricier CPUs - Page 2 | Tom's Hardware
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Review: New Gaming Champ Beats Pricier CPUs
We demonstrated this in our 7950X3D review, and engaging the EXPO profile alone only gave us single-digit percentage improvements in gaming. However, using it with PBO and/or undervolting yields the best gains, so we used an EXPO memory profile in tandem with undervolting and PBO for our ... Sub-$450 CPU is even faster for gaming than Ryzen 9 7950X3D.
Rating: 4.5 ​
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Reddit
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r/overclocking on Reddit: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D PBO Overclocking
March 17, 2025 -

Consider me a AMD n00b, I've been using Intel since the Pentium II days.
I have a few questions for you overclocking experts if you don't mind, I'll just get right to it.

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X870E-E

-PBO: Advanced.
-PBO Limits: Motherboard.
-PBO Scalar Ctrl: Manual
-PBO Scalar: 10x (should I set it lower, as in 5x?)
-Max CPU Boost Clock: +200
-Curve Shaper:
-Min, Low and Medium frequency: Negative 20
-High and Max frequency: Negative 10
-I tried min low and medium to -30, high and max -15, but Cinebench crashed while launching.

-DDR5 64GB 6400Mt (2 Kingston sticks, Hynix)
-EXPO Profile 1
-FCLK: 2133Mhz
-FCLK should lock in the MCLK and UCLK from my understanding.
(Also set the Infinity Fabric Frequency and DIviders to 2133Mhz, I'm guessing thats just doubling down on the same settings, probably redundant?)
-Scatterbencher also recommended to set the eCLK to Asynchronuous with BCLK2 Frequency to 105.5, which I haven't done, what are the benefits or downsides of doing so? Is this only necessary if setting the BCLK2 frequency manually, or also has benefits with auto? He also loaded Hynix primary timings from the memory presets, which I also haven't done.

-eCLK Mode: Auto
-tRef: 65535
-UCLK DIV1 Mode: UCLK=MEMCLK (Assuming this is 1:1 ratio)

-Cinebench multi core score: 2528

-Am I going in the right direction? What can I do better, and am I doing something wrong? Any insight or opinions is greatly appreciated.

-I tried the Curve Optimizer set to per CCD at -20 per CCD for a few days, thought I'd try the Curve Shaper for a more advanced approach.
With the CO value at -20 per CCD (and even -10) I had stability issues in just one game (The Division 1) with massive stuttering (every 2-3 seconds the frames would completely halt for a full second sometimes), tried reinstalling it, etc, but to no luck, I'm hoping its just really buggy, although it ran stable on my 14900k with the same GPU and Nvidia drivers.
I know it's not the frames, it sits at stable 237fps which is my set limit in NVCPL, and it doesn't drop in frames, it simply kinda freezes, lowering settings also doesn't help, I'm on a Astral 5090 OC and have tried stock GPU settings too, so it's not my GPU undervolt/overclock.
I didn't try before overclocking, so not sure if its just an AMD issue or unstable BIOS settings, I did try with EXPO profile 1 at 6000Mt but no change.

-I am fairly thorough with which guides I follow, I trust Skatterbencher and Blackbird PC Tech, they are straight to the point without any fuss, Blackbird is also really helpful with answering questions, what an absolute legend!

-Btw where is all the cake I was promised for switching to team red? I was told there would be cake??

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Be careful with curve optimizer/shaper. A lot of people set arbitrary all-core or per-CCD values there that are only kinda stable, never properly stability test, and then wonder why they have issues down the line. The only test that I've found that really stresses all aspects of Ryzen CPUs is CoreCycler , and you have to use a very specific configuration for it: Under "General" set "stressTestProgram" to "YCRUNCHER" Under "General" set "runtimePerCore" to "auto" Under "yCruncher" set "mode" to "19-ZN2 ~ Kagari" This will take a long time, and fully test all cores at their CO/CS values from boot. Edit - As an extra test, you should manually run 15-20 runs of AIDA64 's "CPU SHA3" and "FPU Julia" benchmarks. In fact, you should also do this before OCing anything - I had this test catch a defective 7950X3D that I was then able to RMA. UPDATE The info below this paragraph is outdated, mainly due to AGESA updates and maybe differences between Zen 4 and Zen 5. Process-wise, it should still work, but the y-cruncher test mode and the set of specific tests need to be researched and updated. For a better/more up-to-date process for finding per core values, see this OCN thread. ADDITIONAL UPDATE Alternatively, you can check this thread for some info specific to better tests to use for 9000 series CPU. Optionally, with a slightly different configuration of CoreCycler, you can use a tool like SMU Debug Tool to adjust per-core CO from Windows without rebooting. Be aware, however, that there may be some weirdness with DLDO (dynamic per-core voltages) when you change CO on the fly like that. It's a bit beyond my knowledge, but I have seen it claimed that there is a calibration of the DLDO to the V/F curve on boot, so if you change CO values after boot, you should re-test after manually inputting those values through the BIOS on a clean boot to be sure. What I use for finding per-core is: Under "General" set "stressTestProgram" to "YCRUNCHER" Under "General" set "runtimePerCore" to "auto" Under "General" set "skipCoreOnError" to "0" Under "yCruncher" set "mode" to "19-ZN2 ~ Kagari" Under "yCruncher" set "tests" to "BKT, BBP, SNT" no "SNT, N63, VT3" "BKP, SFT, N63" (Edit: The 3rd set here seems to most consistently spot errors for me at present.) Under "yCruncher" set "testDuration" to "30" That leads to much shorter, but much less thorough per-core testing. I use that to "quickly" (it can still take hours) find rough per-core CO values, then manually put them in from BIOS and re-test them with the more thorough config. Edit - To actually find the per core values, you'll have to watch the testing as it goes on in the CoreCycler window. Each time a core passes a run, you can bump the CO value down one (for example, from -10 to -11). If a core fails a run, you bump it up one (for example, from -10 to -9). Obviously, for the cores that have found a failure point, note them so you don't forget and bump them down again - these will stay at the lowest value that is stable. Once all cores are at their lowest CO, these are what you will put in through the BIOS and test again on a clean boot with the "full" test from the first part of the post. Once you have a per-core CO config you know works, you can then work on messing with curve shaper from known, solid baseline, but I don't have any experience with curve shaper, so I'll leave that to others. One thing I have not tested, but heard is very effective, is adjusting your CO/CS values to "flatten" the voltage sent to the CPU. That is to say, getting the VID values (requested voltage from each core) to be about the same for every core under a given load. Getting a per-core CO is already really time consuming, so I haven't tried this, but I have seen people get surprisingly good multi-core results from doing it. Treat this as extra-credit, I guess.
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Start from scratch, first without pbo,check memory timings and overcloking stability. I recommend 6000cl30 2000fclk or 6200cl30 2066fclk for gaming, buildzoid primary and secondary timings( look for it on reddit or youtube)then proceed to check pbo at -5,-10 &then -15 ,beyond is cpu lottery.check stability through aida stress test. Scalar 1x is enough, 200 boost override. Don't fiddle with high/low temp pbo, not worth it. Update bios, chipset to latest version. I had issues playing warzone, game was stuttering, for me it was tight ram timings, loosened tras and trp, for you it might be something else. Don't stress out, do one step at a time, test stability using prime95 and aida stress test for cpu stability and karhu & testmem5 anta77 for memory stability, test it atleast for 8 hours. Always check the gaming experience after a stable system is achieved, if stuttering persists, check graphics card drivers. Use DDU to uninstall and then reinstall drivers. You can also do fresh windows 11 clean install.
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hardforum.com › [h]ard|ware › amd processors
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D Performance, Overclocking and Cooling Thread | Page 5 | [H]ard|Forum
March 17, 2025 - PBO with a -20 CO will be netting you boosts of 5.6Ghz+, add on a +100~200Mhz FO on top of that, and you could be boosting 5.7Ghz+ on the X3D CCD and up past 5.9Ghz on the non-x3d CCD. Of course, test for stability if you tweak that though. Click to expand... It was a stock, fresh install run - just happy with how cool it is coming from 7950X3D.
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reddit.com › r/amd › 7950x3d regrets…
r/Amd on Reddit: 7950x3D regrets…
July 20, 2023 -

I got the 7950x3D, but I game 90% of the time, and play with large data sets the other 10% (on this machine). BTW first chip was defective, giving random reboots on stock settings so on to my second chip which has been fine so far.

I loved the idea of process lasso, have the license, but the entire guesswork on which games prefer cache or all is just putting me off. Don’t even get me started on the Game Bar method haha

Is there no easy way out using process lasso and the guesswork, or should I just switch to 7800x3D and call it a day?

TL;DR: 7950x3D is a lovely chip… however, how have you made your life easy with it in the gaming use case?

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Overclockers UK
forums.overclockers.co.uk › hardware › cpus
Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D | Page 282 | Overclockers UK Forums
May 12, 2023 - Had my timings stable for a couple of weeks then pushed fclk to 2100, looked stable. Then was playing with the pbo scalar setting but my pc would sometimes lock up and restart randomly, so left scalar on auto. Still crashing, so changed fclk back to 2000 thinking that was it...
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Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums
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7950x3d Benchmarks for MSFS 2020 - Page 2 - Install, Performance & Graphics - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums
February 27, 2023 - From the article: Ryzen 9 7950X3D: Corsair H115i 280mm water cooler, default power limits, DDR5-5200 (Coupled Mode) Ryzen 9 7950X3D PBO/UV: Corsair H115i 280mm water cooler, Precision Boost Overdrive (Advanced/Motherboard), Scalar 10X, -25 Curve Optimizer, DDR5-6000 EXPO (Coupled Mode), Silicon lottery and cooling performance impact overhead – YMMV
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AMD Precision Boost Overdrive 2 - SkatterBencher
July 27, 2024 - In Scenario 6, we set the scalar value to 10X. In Scenario 7, we use the Curve Optimizer and try an all-core negative value of 30 and 15. While negative 30 did in fact pass our PBO-2 tests, ultimately it was not stable enough to pass the other benchmarks.
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AnandTech
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Can a 7800x3d be Tuned for best performance? | AnandTech Forums: Technology, Hardware, Software, and Deals
June 29, 2023 - The 7950X3D V-Cache CCD is slightly different compared to the 7800X3D V-Cache CCD in that it's a little higher quality and runs 200MHz more across all speed bins. I use a combination of base clock and CO to get the best mix of performance. I set a base clock of 102MHz and cap the max boost ...
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Linus Tech Tips
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7950X3D PBO - CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory - Linus Tech Tips
October 22, 2024 - i tried setting PBO to Auto in the bios, mind you i have nothing else tweaked on my 7950x3d, just prefer cache set to enabled, and i compared scores in cinbench and cs2 and i didnt notice much difference, to be clear i had it set to enabled before switching to auto which to my knowledge disables ...
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SkatterBencher
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SkatterBencher #85: Ryzen 9 9950X3D Overclocked to 5900 MHz - SkatterBencher
March 11, 2025 - The Ryzen 9 9950X3D succeeds the 16-core Zen 4 Ryzen 9 7950X3D which we overclocked in SkatterBencher #56. It has a base clock of 4.3 GHz and a listed boost frequency of up to 5.7 GHz.
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SkatterBencher #56: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Overclocked to 5900 MHz - SkatterBencher
February 27, 2023 - Precision Boost Overdrive 2 builds on the PBO implementation of Zen 2. In addition to the platform overclocking knobs from Zen+ (PPT, TDC, EDC) and processor overclocking knobs from Zen 2 (Boost Override and Scalar), Precision Boost Overdrive 2 introduces Curve Optimizer.
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Overclockers UK
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Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D | Page 138 | Overclockers UK Forums
March 3, 2023 - 3. Clean OS, minimal background apps running. 4. 360 AIO +Liquid Metal +100% fan speed. 5.Latest Chipset drivers, game mode enabled in windows and Game bar updated and enabled 6. Tuned CPU, using curve optimiser -28 all core. PBO enabled, max power limit scalar x10.