Why not have both? Just use the PC one at Loblaws banner stores, and the Tangerine one elsewhere. That said, I could be wrong but I thought the current standard earn rate on Tangerine was under 1% outside of the three categories you pick, whereas the PC one is 1%. Answer from Conundrum1911 on reddit.com
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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › [deleted by user]
Thoughts on the new PC Insiders World Elite Mastercard?
December 2, 2023 - Canadian Tire World Elite kicks its butt, IMO. 3% at all grocery stores everywhere, not just at Loblaws. Also free roadside assistance gold membership and perkopolis. ... Yes, redeemable in merchandise only. Exactly the same as PC Mastercard, points are redeemable in merchandise only.
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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › upgrading to pc world elite mastercard
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: Upgrading to PC World Elite Mastercard
January 20, 2024 -

So I've been a PC Mastercard holder since 2007, making the account 17 years old now. I've been trying to get upgraded to the World Elite card, but kept being turned down due to the fact that I need a spending of $25,000 to qualify. Ironically speaking, if I were to be a new user with my income I automatically qualify as they don't have that spending criteria expect just strictly income.

Just why the heck would anyone use any of their lower tier cards with much less rewards/perks instead of other much better CC cards just to "try" and meet the $25,000 spending threshold? It's a major roadblock for current members that makes no sense. Anyone else is encountering this?

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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › currently have a pc financial world mastercard. debating switching to the tangerine money-back cc. thoughts?
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: Currently have a PC Financial World MasterCard. Debating switching to the Tangerine Money-Back CC. Thoughts?
April 12, 2025 -

Basically title.

Looking for advice on this before I make the switch. I already have my regular banking with Tangerine and I’m pre-approved for the CC with a $25K limit. My PC Card has a $12K limit.

I’m thinking the Tangerine card would be better cause I’m not limited to just earning points at Loblaws family of stores/PC optimum.

But wanted some opinions before I make the switch?

I was also looking at the Amazon card as I do a lot of shopping there and have prime. But when I was googling I found a lot of posts saying it wasn’t great. So I’m not sure if it’s a good idea or not?

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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › opinions on pc insiders™ world elite mastercard®
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: Opinions on PC Insiders™ World Elite Mastercard®
May 7, 2024 -

Hello guys, I got the following email:

Unlimited $0 delivery and pickup. Unlimited convenience. Get a complimentary PC Express Pass when you upgrade** to the new PC Insiders World Elite Mastercard®. That’s unlimited $0 grocery delivery and pickup on eligible orders, an exclusive benefit valued at $99.99 per year, every year!1

The best part? Until June 16, get a welcome bonus of 100,000 PC Optimum**** points on any first purchase you make with your card. That’s like $100!

Earn an average of $1,100 in value every year by earning more PC Optimum points on everything you love – groceries, Shoppers Drug Mart ® products, Esso and Mobil gas, and more. For only a $120 annual fee, it’s the most rewarding PC® Mastercard® ever.

Don’t wait — you can upgrade easily through your PC Financial® online account. No credit check required.

My current card is the basic PC Financial Mastercard, with no fees but with not a great points earning rate either, I get all my groceries and basic items from Loblaws, almost every single time I used PC Express to get them delivery, I think the welcome offer to switch the card of 100,000 PC Optimum points is good. To be honest, I don't want to apply for another credit card and run my credit and this one is just an internal check with no impact on my credit, do you think it is a good idea to switch ? And I have another question, I always pay my statements in full, but I'm wondering if PC Financial offers something like Scotia SelectPay™

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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › pc world elite mastercard vs costco world mc
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: PC World Elite Mastercard VS Costco World MC
August 9, 2024 -

I've had enough with PC Mastercard. Their customer service and the way I get brush off makes me want to jump ship. That and the whole Loblaws thing doesn't look good.

I've been a loyal customer with PC Master Card for 18 years being a World Elite client for at least 8 of those years.

What I hear is that Costco Mastercard can be better. Can anyone tell me (if they know) the pros and cons of both?

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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › want to upgrade your pc financial card? stop using it.
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: Want to upgrade your PC Financial Card? Stop using it.
May 4, 2024 -

Just wanted to share my recent experience. I used the PC Mastercard - World tier as my primary card for living expenses. I've met the income and spend requirement for the World Elite tier for years; having made several requests in person, online, and over the phone to see if I can prompt the upgrade. Everytime I was told that they'd upgrade me when they see fit.

Well, I recently switched my main card to the Scotiabank Passport, dropping spend on the PC card by 75%+. Lo and behold, what e-mail do I get a few months after switching? An offer to upgrade my PC Card to the World Elite tier.

Coincidence? Loblaw boycott having an effect on the bottom line? Or is the conventional wisdom of maintaining spend for an upgrade switched to the telecom model of switching providers for the best value?

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reddit.com › r/loblawsisoutofcontrol › just cancelled pc world elite mastercard
Just cancelled PC World Elite Mastercard : r/loblawsisoutofcontrol
March 28, 2024 - My world elite mastercard has been my family's go to card for about ten years. I hope to cancel it tomorrow, and pull my prescriptions from shoppers to co-op. The shoppers has been so convenient, within walking distance, but get bent, Loblaws. ... Yeaah! Let's do this! ... I'm currently waiting until mid month to see how a new line of credit affects my credit score. If I see improvement, then I'll be transferring some funds to my PC Mastercard, which will cut my interest rate by 10%, and canceling the card once my points are spent (it's only a recent purchase I made that I put on the card to avoid interest for a few weeks while figuring it out, rather than the day 1 interest on the line of credit).
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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › getting booted off pc world elite mastercard...
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: Getting booted off PC World Elite Mastercard...
September 16, 2018 -

So my wife and I don't meet the spend requirement for the card even if we combined our spending to a single card. I've read through other threads of people going through this and there doesn't seem to be a good answer to what card to go to next. Here's what the last 12 months spending was on each of our cards.

Notes:

  • Groceries at Superstore, Walmart Supercentre, Costco

  • only bill payment we have is Freedom Mobile

  • gas spend would be slightly higher outside of pandemic. Most convenient day to day gas stations are Mobil, Safeway, Co-op (Calgary)

  • live in a condo, so no electric/water/gas bill, just a condo fee that comes out of bank account

  • car/auto insurance we pay once a year

Here's what I'm looking at doing (FYI, we like to keep spending separate). Any suggestions would be appreciated. We're not against fee cards, but with our spending so low, I doubt any are worth it.

  • We each get a BMO Cashback Mastercard to use for 3% CB on groceries

  • We each get a Tangerine Money-Back Credit card and choose 3 categories each and give the other an accessory card. This will let us get 2% CB on 6 categories as long as we use the right card. So probably choose: Restaurants, Gas, Recurring Bill Payments, Entertainment, Drug Store, Home Improvement.

EDIT: Will probably add the Rogers Platinum Mastercard for 1% CB at Costco. So 3 cards, but it's probably better returns than the single world elite card we were using.

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Yea, the World Elite cards are probably all going down the drain this year. My Rogers and PC ones will be downgraded too.

Depending on who you bank with and your situation, you could look into one of the Cashback cards that come with a fee waiver (i.e. TD Cash Back Visa Infinite comes with a fee waiver if you hold a certain account, and 3% on grocery/gas/recurring bills, 1% everything else). I'm not sure if the other banks have similar offers, but CIBC + Scotia have similar cards.

You could go the churning route, signing up for first year free cards and switching every year before the fee hits. There's some decent offers floating around, like 10% back on first 2k in spending for the CIBC CB Visa Infinite. You just have to read up on the cash back terms and remember to cancel on time.

Otherwise, if you're just looking for daily drivers, it's tough to critique your current plan. Most of your spending falls into those categories, and getting 2% or better in cash back on average is pretty good.

It's worth noting that Walmart and Costco do not always code as groceries (in my experience more often than not they do not), so these purchases would get your base cash back (0.5%, which kinda sucks). And Costco only accepts Mastercard, so there's also that to consider.

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If you are willing to go that way you can get the Scotiabank Momentum Visa Infinite. It'S a 60k personal income minimum card with 120$/year in fees, but those fees are waived if you open a premium checking account with them, and if you keep 5,000$ in their premium checking account the fees for the account are waived. Those 5,000$ could be considered the "bottom" of your emergency fund, money you wouldn't touch unless things have really gone bad.

So, 5,000$ in an account gives you a 120$/year fee waived, which is like a 2.4% pre-tax return. That is pretty great.

Then, the card gives you 4% cashback on groceries and recurring bills (excluding Costco since Costco does not count as groceries), 2% on gas and public transit, and 1% on everything else. This all-in-one card can give you a lot of good bang for your buck, especially if you deposit the 5,000$ to get the fee waived.

Otherwise you can get the BMO mastercard for 3% on groceries, the Tangerine mastercard for 2% on bills, gas, and entertainment, you could get the Simplii visa for 4% on restaurants and 1.5% at drug stores, and the Rogers mastercard for 1% on everything else, since BMO, Tangerine, and Simplii cards give 0.5% on the "other".

While we're at it, make sure to open a bank account with EQ bank. It's an online only bank with no ATMs or debit card, but your money sits at 1.5%, and you can pay credit card bills directly from within the 1.5% account. That way you don't need to keep money in a 0.05% checking account, and it's almost like double-dipping in rewards with the cashback cards.

TD has the same kind of deal with their Visa infinite, but it's 3% on gas, groceries, and recurring bills, 1% on everything else. They do offer their free version of CAA though, so you can decide if you'd rather have that or the Scotia visa.

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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › upgrade from pc world to pc insider's world elite worth it?
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: Upgrade from PC world to PC Insider's World Elite worth it?
August 6, 2025 -

I see the option to upgrade to the highest tier of PC mastercard, Annual fee of $120 waved for first year and a welcome bonus of 120000 PC Optimum points. Also free PC Express pass for a year.

Loblaws Grocery - 40 points Shoppers Drugmart - 50 points Esso/Mobil Gas Stations - upto 7cents/lit (50 points on regular + 20 points if 150 litres filled in a month) Everywhere Else - 10 points

Is it worth upgrading?

Edit: I see the offer of 120k Optimum points under my pc Optimum offers.

Offer

Update: I have received the 120k optimum points today, but no rebate in sight for the annual fee yet. I have sent an email to customer service and will update here as soon as i hear back.

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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › 2 questions regarding the world elite mastercard
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: 2 questions regarding the World Elite Mastercard
October 24, 2022 -

I've been browsing around for a couple weeks now for a credit card. I'm interested in applying for only one of these two cards, Rogers Bank's World Elite Mastercard and RBC's Cash Back Preferred World Elite Mastercard. If you hold any of these cards (or a World/WE Mastercard), I would really appreciate your inputs.

Comparing the two cards, I noted these 2 key differences.

Plus sides of Rogers's:

  1. No annual fee

  2. Airport lounge by DragonPass

  3. 3% back on USD purchases

Plus sides of RBC's:

  1. Free Boingo wifi access when travelling

  2. No minimum annual spend

I have a few questions for these cards:

  1. Rogers mentions "to maintain eligibility, you must have an annual spend of $15,000 each year". Do I need to charge $15k per year to the card? Or is it asking my general expenses? I spend more than $15k per year but not to just one card.

  2. I read World Elite Mastercard's website and—to my understanding—as long as it's World or World Elite Mastercard, you get Mastercard's benefits (purchase protection/car rental insurance/airport lounges/etc). Do we get all of these these benefits listed in mastercard.ca?

  3. It also says that we get complementary Travel Pass to airport lounges by DragonPass but also charges $32 USD per person per visit. What does this mean?

Thanks!

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Rogers mentions "to maintain eligibility, you must have an annual spend of $15,000 each year". Do I need to charge $15k per year to the card? Or is it asking my general expenses? I spend more than $15k per year but not to just one card. Yes this is a requirement that's imposed on by MasterCard on free World Elite card issuers. Whether or not Rogers Bank enforces it is up to them, the T&C states that it gives them the right to decide. So far, there's no reports of people being downgraded for not spending $15k on the Rogers World Elite MasterCard last year. We will know if Rogers Bank downgrades anyone in November as their cycle goes from September to August and enforcement is supposed to be every November. The opposite was true for PC Financial, they downgraded a ton of people last year for not meeting $15k spend on the PC Financial World Elite MasterCard. I read World Elite Mastercard's website and—to my understanding—as long as it's World or World Elite Mastercard, you get Mastercard's benefits (purchase protection/car rental insurance/airport lounges/etc). Do we get all of these these benefits listed in mastercard.ca? All World Elite MasterCards often come with the same basic benefits that the card program provides like Boingo Wifi. However, make sure to check the card product pages for details as they have their own unique features. It also says that we get complementary Travel Pass to airport lounges by DragonPass but also charges $32 USD per person per visit. What does this mean? Membership is included but each visit is charged at the discounted rate of $32 USD per visit.
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It also says that we get complementary Travel Pass to airport lounges by DragonPass but also charges $32 USD per person per visit. What does this mean? You get a free DragonPass membership, which gives you the right to pay $32 to enter the lounge.
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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › pc financial mastercard changes: world elite card now requires $15k annual spend, existing cardholders being automatically downgraded
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: PC Financial Mastercard Changes: World Elite Card Now Requires $15k Annual Spend, Existing Cardholders Being Automatically Downgraded
February 25, 2021 -

Just received this email: https://imgur.com/D4FhBtN


As a PC Financial® World Elite Mastercard® cardholder, we wanted to inform you of changes to your World Elite Mastercard® account. Mastercard has added a new annual minimum spend requirement of $15,000 for World Elite credit cards that we have applied to your account.

In reviewing your account, we regret to inform you that you did not meet the new minimum annual1 spend requirement for a World Elite Mastercard®.

As a result, we will be issuing you a different no annual fee PC Financial Mastercard. To request2 a PC Financial World Mastercard® please follow the instructions below by March 31, 2021:

Request a PC Financial World Mastercard:

If you're interested in the no annual fee PC Financial World Mastercard you can:

• Log in to your online account at pcfinancial.ca and follow the prompts on the home screen banner to request a PC Financial World Mastercard.

• Call 1-877-777-9536 and follow the instructions to request a PC Financial World Mastercard.

Standard PC Financial Mastercard®

If you do not request and qualify for the PC Financial World Mastercard by March 31, 2021, you will automatically be issued the standard no annual fee PC Financial Mastercard starting April 1, 2021.

To understand the points earning rates of the cards, please see the chart below3.

A “thank-you” gesture

To thank you for your continued business, we’d like to award you with an additional 10 PC Optimum™ points per dollar spent in participating stores until May 31, 2021. These additional points will start from the date you request and qualify for the PC Financial World Mastercard, or the day we issue your standard PC Financial Mastercard. The additional 10 PC Optimum points per dollar spent in participating stores are in addition to the regular points earning rate on your new card and will appear on your account within 4-6 weeks of each qualifying purchase.

Here are some important details to note:

• Your PC Financial World Elite Mastercard benefits, including Travel Emergency Medical Insurance, Car Rental Collision/Loss Damage Waiver Insurance, Identity Theft Assistant Service, and Concierge Service, will end on March 31, 2021 or the date you request and qualify for a new PC Financial World Mastercard4.

• Your current card will remain active for purchases after March 31, 2021 for up to 60 days to ensure that you have time to activate your new card.

• If you don’t request and qualify for the PC Financial World Mastercard, you will receive the standard no annual fee PC Financial Mastercard in April to replace your existing card. You will need to activate your new card. No PIN changes are required.

• This change applies to any authorized users’ cards on your account.

• Any balance on your account will be transferred to your new card.

• Your new card will have a different card number, expiry date and security code. Make sure to change any pre-authorized payments once your new card is received.

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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › world elite cards- who’s eligible?
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: World Elite Cards- Who’s eligible?
October 1, 2022 -

Hi all,

Ive been wondering this for a while and thought I would ask. What exactly qualifies you to get approved for any world elite Mastercard? Obviously your income must be high but is there anything else? Are only people with a certain credit score range approved for these along with high income? Or are there any factors I’ve missed. Just curious, thanks in advance!

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reddit.com › r/pcoptimum › pc world elite mastercard welcome bonus
r/PCOptimum on Reddit: PC World Elite MasterCard Welcome Bonus
November 24, 2024 -

Edit Update***

Just circling back on this. I recieved my welcome bonus offer and it appears the gift cards did count towards it. Now I did not use gift cards to meet 100% of the minimum spend but they counted for about 50% of the spending.

I have a welcome bonus offer that I signed up for that requires me to spend a certain amount at Shoppers. I understand there's some restrictions on qualifying purchases but I can't seem to find a clear PC source that says no for welcome bonus. Do gift cards fall under this?

Not trying to game the bonus with gift cards. I have a need to buy them but don't want to buy them and think I'm all set for the bonus and find out after I'm not.

To my understanding if I bought the cards from Shoppers it would still be spending there...

The PC chatbot AI thing says yes. A customer service rep I spoke to said yes but a supervisor I spoke to said no.

A little lost.

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reddit.com › r/personalfinancecanada › downgraded to pc mastercard (from world elite) during application
r/PersonalFinanceCanada on Reddit: Downgraded to PC Mastercard (from World Elite) during application
December 13, 2016 -

I applied for the World Elite Mastercard. Good Credit Score and I meet all income requirements. But they sent me the regular PC Mastercard. Has anyone else ran into this issue?

Basically the PC mastercard is useless to me because I will get more reward from using my Tangerine card at Loblaws. I wanted the World Elite so I could drop my TD First Class and just have the Tangerine and PC world elite (strictly for travel benefits and shopping at Loblaws).