The biggest thing I miss is going to different cafés and trying out the lattés. Lattés and Flat Whites are my thing. I am not into just espresso and don't ever drink black coffee. I did a little research and determined that I'd rather practice on machines I buy once (I hate buying things more than once). I've narrowed down my picks to an espresso machine with dual boiler, and bottomless portafilter style espresso machine with a great milk steamer.
I know grinders will make the biggest difference in coffee, but I am finding it difficult to figure out which one to get. While espresso machines have different features/perks, I can't figure out what I need in my grinder (stepless, stepped, doser, etc). Can stepless grinders still be used for other forms of brewing like french press? Or is that all-purposeness going to come more from stepped? I will probably be pulling at least two shots back to back each day and sometimes four, more if friends can visit once this whole pandemic is over. For grind time, faster is better, but a few seconds won't hurt if the price difference is significant.
Examples of what I like:
I'm liking the Lelit Bianca (heard wire management was iffy?), Profitec Pro 700, ECM Synchronika. These are probably money is no object, end-game machines, though. Any suggestions on an excellent grinder and similarly great machines with a post-pandemic-world budget? There was one deli in brooklyn I went to that had the absolute best latté I have ever had. It wasn't even a dedicated coffee shop, just a deli. I doubt they had all of the fancy machines we see online. I just want to recreate that at home.
Yes, a good dual boiler will surely serve your purpose, but so will a HX machine for a cheaper price and still excellent build quality. I mean, you don't want to drink espresso on its own, so why have two boilers? If I were you, I'd get a Lelit MaraX with a Eureka Mignon Specialita.
IMO you should consider the simpler SBDU semi-automatics too - Gaggia Classic, Lelit Anna or a Rancilio Sylvia. Not sure if the $$$$ ones can make better lattes or flat whites to justify the price differences, if one is just starting out.
BTW, matching espresso grinders for such a setup - a Baratza Sette, Eureka Mignon, Lelit Fred or even the vintage Rocky.
Stepless grinders are great if you want more precise grind size control over one grinding size range, say for espressos. They are not practical to dial-in for other vastly differing grind sizes, brew methods on a daily basis.
I am looking for some recommendations for grinders around 300-500$ range. I would mostly use it for lattes. I still haven’t decided on a machine but considering the Bambino. Is the Baratza encore esp grinder better than the one that comes with Breville express/pro? I am also considering a DF64 but not sure about which burr set to get and what the differences between the sets are. I am looking for something that is easier to use as well as I am very new to all of this and don’t really have a lot of time in the mornings to experiment.
I am in the US. I am not sure if all brands are available here.
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You ok with hand grinder? I have a k4 and it grinds enough for a latte in about 45 seconds. I got mine for only 80usd
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I’m new to making espresso and need a grinder recommendation. I have a few machines in mind but don't know the differences between what to get. I am looking for whichever one is the most hassle-free but still leads to a great latte.
About me:
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Espresso Machine: Breville Bambino Plus (Bought this because I was told that your espresso machine matters much less than your grinder. But I have until next month to return if I'm not satisfied with it)
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Max Budget: $650
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Use: I will pretty much just be making lattes. I also prefer medium to dark roasts in order to limit the caffeine amount.
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Electric Grinders only (I prioritize time/convenience over money).
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Don’t care about the noise as I live alone
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Preferred flavor profile: I'm not particularly good at telling apart what is "chocolatey" and [insert other adjective here]. So I'm pretty open
Options that I’m debating:
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Breville Smart Grinder Pro ($200)
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Turin SD40 v2 ($200)
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Baratza Encore ESP ($200)
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Turin DF64 ($330)
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Baratza Sette 270 ($400)
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Niche Zero ($450)
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Eureka Mignon Specialita ($650)
My Questions (besides which Grinder I should get):
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Will making lattes mean that the grinder doesn’t have to be that great? (Milk > masks flavors of espresso?)
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What does it mean when a grinder is described as more/less “forgiving?”
So I’m looking for the best grinder between 300-500$. Currently have the Sette 30 which I’m going to return. The Sette 270, Niche Zero and the Df64 are the three that I’m looking at that seem to be really solid in this price range. Let me know which you think will be the best for my budget. I’m mainly making double espresso shots and latte/cortados.
Hi trying to spend as little money like under 150(?) new or used? Idunno, any suggestions? Not sure how long I have to make this post to not get deleted which I’m a big fan of in general 😊
But yea looking for suggestions, thanks 🙏
I'm on the hunt for a new coffee grinder (I'm looking at the Fellow Ode and Opus, but I'm not sure they're worth the price?) and it got me wondering what other's coffee routines are and how much they cost!
I'll start:
Aeropress: ~$25 + filters ($5)
Beans: $20/2 lbs - thankfully my favorite brand is pretty cheap!
Grinder: Krups Burr Grinder, $50, it's fine but it makes such a mess
2x per morning!
Grinder-wise, I'm looking for something on the smaller and quieter side, but I'm not super scientific about my coffee so I don't need something super high end. But I do appreciate sleekness :)
I have the breville Bambino and splurged on the df-54 when it first came out and I really like it. Size size the two only take up as much space as one of the larger standard breville espresso makers. I make about one iced latte a day and usually get locally roasted beans.
my dad gifted me the Breville Barista Express 3 years ago and with the exception of a small seal needing replacement last year, the machine works perfect with almost daily use. you definitely need to keep up on the maintenance schedule (clean cycle and descale cycle). the grinder is relatively quiet, it could be worse.
i used to buy fresh beans from a local roaster but they got too expensive. since then, i love the whole bean espresso from whole foods.
So I did a lot of research and I’d like to get a high end grinder for my new setup. Mostly espresso. I was looking into the https://www.option-o.com/lagom-p64 and the https://zerno.co - but neither of them is actually available for sale right now.
Any suggestions what grinder in that price range is actually available to purchase today?
Thanks!
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I'm looking for an espresso focused grinder that will predominantly be used for lattes. Currently using an old Breville Infuser espresso machine.
I currently have a Breville Smart Grinder that's coming up on it's 10th birthday, and the motivation for buying a new one is changing grind size. I'm finding swapping between a latte in the morning and a pour over in the afternoon really makes both terrible, filter gets clogged and espresso channels. Ideally the new grinder will be used for espresso and the Breville will sit on pour over grind.
In the next few years, I can see myself going off the deep end and purchasing a Decent espresso machine so I'd like a grinder that's a reasonable stepping stone (without just immediately buying an EG-1 or anything).
I'm currently leaning towards the DF64P because it seems like it's at a really nice value per dollar place. While I like light roasts for my pour overs, I typically like more traditional flavors and medium or darker roasts for espresso - I've read that conical burrs are potentially more desirable in that regard?
So, should I be looking at conical grinders, and if so is there anything non-Niche that's the conical equivalent of the DF64? Anything else I should be considering? I'm in Canada, so ~500 - 1500$ CAD is what I'm thinking budget wise.
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Edit: Upon recommendation of those below, I picked up the DF83. It showed up yesterday (984.27$ CAD + 19.82$ CAD from Fedex) and today I have had the best shot of espresso I've made at home so far, and I look forward to actually spending some time with it. First impression is extremely positive!
I currently have the Breville bambino along with the Breville grinder, wanted recommendations on best, espresso, grind size and also latte size
As fine as you can go without choking the machine...
Grinders can vary in their calibration so two of the same machine might not give the same grind setting.
Every bean will be different and the grind size will change depending on the age of the bean etc... it's called 'dialing in' and can be tedious and exasperating... But it's part of the joy of coffee making...
I remember one helpful comment here that set it to the finest you can go and start from there.
For Xmas, I got my wife a bambino and an OXO grinder. The grinder is absolutely terrible and gets clogged up (lesson learned on going cheap). So, that’s getting returned, but I need to get something to replace it.
Seems like there’s a ton of stuff in that range, and the choices are overwhelming. I know that she really would like something easy to use and doesn’t want something crazy loud (like a baratza). The grinder will only be used for espresso.
Also, are there any other accessories to consider? The machine came with everything, but I keep reading about getting a better portafilter and tamper. Will upgrading those make a huge difference?
Edit to add info from automod post:
Location: US
Budget: $200-$300
Drink Types: Mostly milky drinks. Although the occasional straight shot would be good.
Frequency: Maybe once a day. Potentially a couple times a day if both of us make a drink.
Space: Limited, but the OXO fit fine. It's dimensions are 6.8"L x 11.8"W x 14.8"H
Manual vs Electric: Electric
Comfort with tinkering: Would much rather have plug and play.
Hey everyone! I’m in the market for a new coffee grinder and I’m looking for some recommendations. I mostly brew pour-over and espresso, so I need something that offers consistent grind size and is easy to use.
Edit: After reading the comments I found these ones:
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TIMEMORE Sculptor 064S
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Baratza Encore ESP
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Fellow Gen 2 Ode
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DF64 Coffee Grinder
If you have any other suggestions for coffee grinders that are high-quality but won’t break the bank, feel free to suggest.
Edit: My budget is around $900.
Thanks in advance!
I’ve gone through 3 in 3 years buying base-mid line models from box stores. They just all give up on life. Light use, mainly on weekends. TIA!
Hello, just purchased a Moccamaster KBGT and realized the coffee ginder I currently use make the bean too fine. I read for this machine, it's best to us a medium course grind.
My questions are:
1.) What's a middle of the road coffee bean grinder that you would recommend?
2.) Would you prefer electric or manual
3.) what the best coffee bean to use with a Moccamaster. I love coffee and there is a time and place for all blends.
Thank you
So I am currently using a Breville bambino plus with a ground coffee from Costco. My wife and I are satisfied with it. If we needed to grind beans, then we use this cheap (probably $10) and still have no complaints. - yeah yeah, feel free to roast my setup (pun intended). So, would getting a proper grinder really improve the quality of lattes we drink?
On another note, I saw bestbuy had an openbox fair condition Breville barista pro for $340 and I ordered it. I need to pick it up from another store 50 min away but seems like its a steal at this price. Now most post on reddit dislikes built-in grinders but putting price aside though, how much of a difference would the barista pro grinder vs other $200 grinders make? I am thinking the Baratza Virtuoso+ or MiiCoffee DF54.
Edit:
Thank you so much everyone for your input. I was under the impression grinders would make a better latte but its mostly relevant to those that like black coffee and espresso shots. Both my wife and I drink it with milk and other spices so I don't think even a good grinder will make that much of a difference in my case.
Hey, I am looking to grind my coffee and would like to know what coffee grinders are a good purchase to consider, and whether I should look on ebay or amazon for a purchase. Thanks in advance!
I was looking at the Niche Zero and love it but read it’s bad for light roasts. Is there a consensus single dose grinder that works best with all beans?
As the title states. I work at a nice coffee shop so can do all the things. Curious if there are specific budget grinders you all would recommend for pour overs? Sorry if this is a super common question. Just joined the sub! Looking to upgrade my setup at home to get some more options!
Hi!
I looked through the old posts but didn't find anything newer than 4 years ago, so I thought I would pose the question fresh.
My husband loves fresh coffee, to the extent that since I've known him he always grinds fresh beans every day, uses local beans, and either uses a French press or a pour over method to make his coffee every morning. He has expressed interest in upgrading his cheap blade grinder (sorry if the terminology is wrong) and wants to upgrade to a burr grinder. I have $150-$175 to spend on him for Christmas. Any recommendations on which grinder is the best option?
I looked at the Baratza in that price range, but I saw a number of reviews that said the grinder broke within a year. It's hard to tell what is user error and what is actual defect. I also looked at a Cuisinart option for 1/3 the price and it looked nice, but I also feel like a brand like Baratza that sells $800+ grinders probably knows a thing or two and the lower model will still be worth it.
I'll take any guidance I can get. I don't drink coffee myself so I have to rely on others to tell me what's actually good. TIA!!
Update: thank you all so much for your help and advice! The coffee sub is really a welcoming place! I'll be checking out the Baratza site for their refurbished options and if that doesn't work out I'll check out the Encore. Thank you all so much!!