Laugh at me if you like but I've been pretty much satisfied with my Ryzen 5 3600 for a long while now, although I know it's kinda slow and I've been meaning to upgrade for a while (especially coz I have a fuckin 4080 super paired with it). But now I need to add an extra ssd and my mobo doesn't support an extra port, so I was thinking of upgrading my board, but then I thought, why stick to am4? Why not make a decent upgrade while I'm on it? AM5? Now I have to buy ddr5 and a processor too. Lol. So It was a spiral. I'm torn between 7800x3d (getting a really good deal rn - 300$ - which is a phenomenal deal for where I live, they usually sell for 450+). or go spend a ton on Ryzen 9 9950x3d.
I know it's an older cpu and I'm going to experience huge gains either way when I'm coming from R5 3600 but still would love some knowledgeable opinions and suggestions from you all. Here are some notions I have, please correct me if I'm wrong or if you think there's more to the story.
- Since I will have an am5 board, it's futureproof for far off, and I can be sure the next gen of Ryzen cpus will be compatible with it so I can just sell my 7800x3d and upgrade if I feel like it.
- There's really not as much to Ram, but I read somewhere that 7800x3d doesnt do well with 2+ ram sticks, so I feel like I should go for 2 32 gb sticks. I'm thinking of a cheap Corsair vengeance. Am I wrong?
- I need to invest on a decent cpu cooler, Air coolers are fine and I don't really need a liquid cooler because 7800x3d isn't going to give me as much heat. But the question is, if a decent air cooler would be enough for future upgrades or should I just go all in and buy some fancy liquid cooler rn?
Another conflict in my mind is if I should keep my current cabinet that only supports m-ATX and buy an m-ATX am5 mobo or are ATX mobos just downright superior and I should invest in a good ATX mobo and buy a new case to go with it?
Ik thats a deep spiral lol. But I'm always ready to hear voices of reason from you all who might have better knowledge.
Oh damn, I forgot to mention use cases. I use it for gaming now and then. Programming. Video editing once or twice a month. And lots and lots of chrome tabs for content consumption and research.
I currently have an i7 7700k and a GTX 1070 so I was planning on building a new PC. I’m seeing a lot of praise for the 7800X3D but I’m unclear about what makes the processor so good.
Looking at the comparison between my current CPU, the 7800X3D, and the other Intel CPUs I was considering shows a massive CPU Mark difference.
For my use case, it was mostly just gaming. However, I got back into Escape from Tarkov after a couple years break(what impeccable timing) and I know it is a pretty CPU intensive game.
I also will be playing VR games through Steam, and hopefully using SteamLink or QuestLink to wirelessly play on my Quest 3.
Can anyone help explain some of this like I’m 34 and not entirely knowledgeable on processor specs?
Thanks!
Edit: y’all managed to convince me to change from a 14900k/RTX4090 build to a 7800X3D/RTX4080Super build, saving me over $1200. Thanks for all the responses. I didn’t expect nearly this much feedback.
Im in the process of starting my first build in nearly a decade and have been very out of the loop around PC hardware.
My last build was a i7-7700k with a 1080 gpu.
After several years away from gaming I was shocked to realize my decade old build could no longer handle the requirements of today's games./s
Ive read several articles and posts raving about the 78003DX and wanted to see if anyone had a differing opinion?
The current price is ~519€ and has increased compared to yesterday. I'm thinking about buying the CPU now, but the CPU could become significantly cheaper in the summer despite production being discontinued.
What is your opinion?
I do not know what voodoo AMD did with this chip but they need to go back and look at their other chips and make the change.
First this chip is designed to be and delivered on being a gaming BEAST. It punches way above it's weight class. I know it is not as powerful as other offerings for productivity work loads, but seriously it was not designed to be. This is a gaming chip first and foremost. Seeing benchmarks for work loads to me seem silly. It is made for gaming, benchmarking workloads for this chip is like seeing how a sports car does for towing.
Second, the chip is a power efficiency MONSTER. Even under stress testing, at stock settings I am pulling under 70 watts. That is INSANE, this much performance and it sips power. I see people talking about under-volting, WHY BOTHER?
Third, cooling is dirt simple. You do not need an AIO or LARGE air cooler to keep this chip under control. Even under heavy work load (not it's typical use) a cooler like an L12S (which Noctua claimed cannot do this) is able to keep full speed and temps under throttle level. You move to the intended use of the chip, gaming and cooling is super simple.
The 5800X3D might have been a major jump for designing a chip specifically for gaming but it is still power hungry and a bear to cool. The 7800X3D is nothing short of amazing on every level.
We see all the "high end chips" needing more power, more cooling and yet here is a chip priced in the mid range that is running as fast or FASTER while sipping juice and running cooler than a Jamaican Bobsled Team.
WELL DONE AMD!
Hello here, I keep reading that this CPU might be the best CPU ever when it comes to GAMING, from the previous year, but it confuses me a bit.
By "best CPU for gaming", does that mean this CPU only shines for this specific use and will not be that impressive for anything else ? Like, for instance, streaming and gaming at the same time, having several softwares opened like a browser, several tabs in the browser, discord etc. and so on ?
It confuses me because sometimes people are comparing a Ryzen 7 7700x and the 7800x3D, and while the former seems to be also very good, most people tend to answer "IF for gaming, 7800x3D hands down". But by answering that way, does that mean the CPU is aimed for a user who's gonna only turn on his computer to launch a video game and nothing else ?
I'm planning to make a new configuration since my current one is kinda old now (from 2017 : GTX 1070, i5 7600k, 16gb DDR4), and I would like to make it good for 1440p gaming but also for the general uses listed above... And the more I try to figure out which CPU might be good for the years to come, since I don't want to upgrade every generations, things have been a bit complicated for me especially with this Ryzen 7800x3D.
And by 1440p, I mean a 1440p with 165 hz (180 oc), and for the games it will mostly be fighting games (Tekken 8, Street Fighter 6), and maybe some RPG like Baldur's Gate 3, but maybe some others depending on what will be next !
What's appealing to me with the 7800x3D, beside its raw performances, is also its power usage, which seems to be far lower than its Intel counterparts and even from most of the others ryzen 7 CPUs.
But for a user like me who likes to keep his configuration as long as possible, is this 7800x3D a good pick over a 7700x, or even over those Intel 13th/14th ones although their socket is at the end of its life?
EDIT : thanks for all the answers, everyone !
Hey guys, I will be building my first gaming PC ever and I need your opinions on which CPU to get. I’m gonna list my PC spec below just in case it will help you guys, help me decide which one is better.
Motherboard: Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7 GPU: RTX 5070 Ti (Yet to purchase) RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 6000MHZ CL30 (16GBx2) SSD: Acer Predator GM7 2TB AIO: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 240 A-RGB PSU: Montech Century II 1050W Case: Fractal North Design Monitor: LG 27GR95QE-B 27” 240Hz W-OLED
So everything here is confirmed (bought) except for the CPU and GPU. Before you guys say anything, I know the RX 9070 XT would be the better option, but I do professional work as well. That’s why NVIDIA is better for me.
So in Germany, there’s about 100€ difference between the two CPUs. 7800X3D (360€) vs 9800X3D (460€).Price is not a matter here, but Price-to-Performance ratio is important for me. I’m excited to read your threads about it!
Hello all, I am looking into CPU's at the mment and consistently see the Ryzen 7 7800X3D recommended as the end-all be-all best CPU for gaming, bar none. What I fail to understand and seem to be having finding an ACTUAL answer for... is why? Part of why I am trying to figure this out is I currently have a Ryzen 9 7950X and have been told numerous times that this CPU, while good, isn't a *great* CPU for gaming by any means.
Admittedly this frustrates me a bit since this PC is less than a year old and was, I had thought, the best I could ever possibly make it, and if I made a mistake on my CPU choice I would love to figure that out and better understand what makes a CPU especially great for gaming so that I don't make the same mistake in the future. Any advice is appreciated!
Is the intel version of the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D even worth looking at? Especially because it looks like ill be going with a 7900 xtx i feel like the boost you get when you use the GPU and CPU together is worth it. or could I go with like am4 and save a bit of money? or is the future proofing worth the premium
Hello, I will be building this soon. the PcPartPicker link is attached down below. just a note, I am getting the Ryzen 7 7800X3D because there will be a 2-3 month gap between me building this system and me getting the RTX 4070 Ti SUPER.
If you guys have any feedback I would really appreciate it!
PS: I need the system ASAP for some work. that why I am in a rush.
PS2: I am kind of limited in what I can get too, Due to import limitations.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pLbCGP
Hey guys, it is my first time building pc and im picking on either 7800x3d or 7900x3d as my cpu. 9000 series x3d is over budget so i prefer 7000 series x3d. I will be gaming for 70% and maybe video edit image render for 30% in future. I plan to go long term for at least 6years but is it worth to get these cpu in 2025 as they are released on 2023 due to 8 core on 7800x3d. Also, i dont know which one to pick because 7800x3d good for gaming while 7900x3d better in multitasking and productivity. And will the temperature for these cpu overheat? Thankyou for the advise!
7800x3d 8core cost $466, 7900x3d 12core cost $510
I saw a YouTube video about the 7800x3d skyrocketing in price, but everyone in the comments was saying it was the best cpu for gaming out there, even better than a ryzen 9 7950x3d, could someone explain if it's just insane value or if it's actually better?
I’ve been looking to upgrade my system for a good bit now, having bought a prebuilt several years ago (I have an i5-7400 and a 1060 3GB) and decided building my own PC gives me greater control over what I want and satisfaction with what I get.
My goals are for gaming at 1440p, not 4K. I do not play at 4K and would just like to play titles at 1440p High/Ultra, but I primarily play older titles like modded Skyrim, RDR2, and WoW. I haven’t played Elden Ring and Ghosts of Tsushima but I want to play those at good graphics levels. I mostly play older titles, but I do want to be able to play newer games coming up like AC:Shadows and TES6 (Which I think will be releasing end of 27 or 28). Most of all, I want my games to run smooth. I tried to play Enshrouded and my pc really couldn’t handle it at all. I don’t care about pushing up to 144 or 200 fps, I’m perfectly fine at 70-100 fps. (Which is why I think I’ll be fine with a 7800xt, maybe a 9070xt if it ends up being good but we’ll see on that)
While researching, it seems like 7800x3d is essentially the best cpu for modern gaming (besides the 9800x3d). However, where I am it is at a nearly $500 price point. That is just crazy to me. I was talking to my friend and he recommends getting the 7600x (230$) instead as it would do what I want at the levels I want. I may go higher for the 9700x (310$) if it provides more of what I want. However, my concern is for the future if games are more cpu intensive and I actually would require a 7800x3d, ie heavily modded Skyrim and modded TES6, and a 7600x won’t cut it.
Basically for games in the future that might be more cpu intensive, does a 7800x3d actually hold up way more in the long run that it warrants investing more into than a 7600x? I’m really not gonna replace my specs for another 7 years after building.
I have seen that a higher cache, such as x3d, is better for games, especially for Rust and Escape from Tarkov, which are my main games. I have also read a blog from UserBenchmark that marks the glorification of this processor as a marketing campaign:
"Be wary of sponsored reviews with cherry-picked games that showcase the wins, ignore frame drops, and gloss over the losses. Also, watch out for AMD's army of Neanderthal social media accounts on Reddit, forums, and YouTube; they will be singing their praises as usual. AMD continues to develop 'Advanced Marketing' relationships with select YouTubers with the obvious aim of compensating for second-tier products with first-tier marketing."
"Rational gamers have little reason to look further than the $300 i5-13600K, which offers comparable real-world gaming and better desktop performance at a fraction of the price."
I just want a future-proof CPU that will run these two games at the absolute maximum. I'm also an FPS-over-graphics type of guy, so I'm willing to run at minimal settings at a maximum 2K resolution for highest FPS. I will be glad if someone with a higher understanding of this topic responds.
I mainly want to use it for gaming on 1080p at first and 2K next year. I really want my next PC to last atleast 7-8 years (atleast the MB/CPU, GPU is easier to upgrade). Would a 9800X3D keep up better long term or is the difference so minimal its not worth paying 100 extra for? Since the 7800X3D is 350 and the 9800X3D is 450 in my country.
Hey everyone!
I'm currently using an AMD Ryzen 9 3900X with an RTX 4070ti for gaming, but I feel like my CPU is bottlenecking my setup. I've read that the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D is top-tier for gaming. Would upgrading to this CPU give a noticeable FPS boost in new, demanding games?
Would love to hear your thoughts and experiences!
Hello!!! I am in the processing of building a new PC and I am trying to figure out what CPU to get. I’d love the 7800X3D but with all the issues I’ve seen it has me worried so should I just go for it or play it safe and get an Intel I7 13700k?
Update: went with a 7800x3d and so far it’s been awesome! Thanks for all the tips!!!!
Hello everybody!
The AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D reviews are live, we present to you a megathread of reviews plus specs list comparing other CPU's within the mainstream lineup.
Specifications:
| Specs | Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Ryzen 7 7700X | Ryzen 7 7700 | Ryzen 5 7600X | Ryzen 5 7600 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cores (Thread) | 8 (16) | 8 (16) | 8 (16) | 6 (12) | 6 (12) |
| Base/Boost Clock (GHz) | 4.2/5 | 4.5/5.4 | 3.8/5.3 | 4.7/5.3 | 3.8/5.1 |
| iGPU | RDNA2 | RDNA2 | RDNA2 | RDNA2 | RDNA2 |
| L3 Cache | 96MB | 32MB | 32MB | 32MB | 32MB |
| TDP | 120W | 105W | 65W | 105W | 65W |
| Architecture | Zen4 | Zen4 | Zen4 | Zen4 | Zen4 |
| Core Config | 1 × 8 | 1 × 8 | 1 × 8 | 1 × 6 | 1 × 6 |
| Launch Date | Apr 6, 2023 | Sep 27, 2022 | Jan 10, 2023 | Sep 27, 2022 | Jan 10, 2023 |
| Launch MSRP | US $449 | US $399 | US $329 | US $299 | US $229 |
Reviews
| Site | Text | Video |
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| Ars Technica | link | |
| Anandtech | link | |
| Eurogamer | link | |
| Digital Trends | link | |
| Gamers Nexus | link | |
| Guru3D | link | |
| Hardware Canucks | link | |
| Hardware Unboxed | link | |
| HotHardware | link | |
| Igor's Lab | link | link (DE) |
| KitGuru | link | link |
| Level1Techs | link | |
| Linus Tech Tips | link | |
| PC Gamer | link | |
| PC Mag | link | |
| Phoronix | link | |
| Techradar | link | |
| Techpowerup | link | |
| The FPS Review | link | |
| Tom's Hardware | link | |
| XDA Developers | link |
Enjoy reading/watching and discussing!