My current pc is 5 years old, and my GPU is dying, so I thought to upgrade my whole pc instead of just getting a new GPU.

ATM, I have a ryzen 9 3900x and my instant thought was to get a ryzen 9 7900x. I've done a read here and there and saw that if I can, I should get one of the 3D ones but not the 7900x3D, so either the 7950x3D or the 7800x3D? But then there's the 9000 series coming out this month, how will they compare to the 3D models in the 7000 series? I'm unsure and thought I'd ask here.

What do you guys think?

EDIT: I use the pc for gaming and general use right now. I used to stream, but not so much anymore.

Let me provide some context- I built my PC in late 2020 on a very, very tight budget, and cut some corners (cheap chinese case, non-modular power supply, etc.) I am now in the process of buying a new case and modular PSU so that my system will be cleaner and easier to upgrade in the future. I have a Ryzen 5 3600, GT 1660, and B450M MoBo. I already know I plan on cycling out most of these components to improve future upgradability, and so I can surprise my friend with a rebuild of the old components so we can game together. I planned on just opting for a Ryzen 5 5600 and calling it a day, but the price gap between the 5000 and 7000 series, as well as the need for a non Micro-ATX MoBo makes me wonder if I should save ~120 bucks or just jump several series ahead. I’d love some input! Thank you

I decided to get a 7950X system on Day One of launch because I knew that the Tech Media/Youtubers would be incompetent to review it or even rationally analyze the new generation of Ryzen CPUs.

Since the release of the third generation of Ryzen CPUs (3000 Series or Zen2) the Tech Media/Youtubers have been either too lazy or too stupid to figure out how to configure these CPUs (or maybe it was just Intel's marketing dollars at work).

I have written a guide on how to configure ANY Ryzen 3rd, 4th or 5th Gen Ryzen on ANY motherboard in 14 easy steps that will take about five to ten minutes to complete - this includes the BIOS:

Guide to configuring 3rd, 4th and 5th Gen Ryzen CPUs

Here is some additional info for the 5th Gen (or 7000 Series)

Additional info for 5th Gen Ryzen CPUs

Obviously after I had written my update guide to the 7000 series I did some tweaking which will be reflected in the numbers below.

All I did was replace the 5950X, X570 Motherboard and DDR4 RAM with a 7950X, X670 Motherboard and DDR5 EXPO RAM all other parts of my system, including the 360 rad Arctic Liquid Freezer II AIO using the offset mount remained the same.

One interesting thing that I have found is that when booting up the Computer and running at stock idle the 7950X I have uses about 16 - 20 Watts of power, after applying my configuration that idle usage goes down to 2-3 Watts.

Below you can see the behavior of my system during a voicechat on Discord. The temperature of the CPU is due to the fact that my room temp is around 30 degrees Celsius and I only have one fan (the middle one) of my 360 rad AIO running at around 300 RPM.

So now let's get down the the meat and potatoes of the comparison between my 5950X system and my 7950X and why you should consider getting a Ryzen 7000 series CPU if you are buying a new system.

Going from 7nm to 5nm with my Ryzen 5950X and Ryzen 7950X I get the following results

At the same performance level (maximum CineBench R23 score for my 5950X) I get the following:

1. CPU voltage

5950X 1.3 Volts

7950X 0.83 Volts

For the same performance vs 7nm the 5nm uses 63% of the Voltage (or rather the 5950X uses 56.6% more Voltage)

2) CPU Clockspeed

5950X 4.675 GHz

7950X 4.115 GHz

For the same performance vs 7nm the 5nm needs 89.2% of the clockspeed (or rather the 5950X needs 12.7% more Clockspeed)

3) CPU Wattage

5950X 180 Watts

7950X 54 Watts

For the same performance vs 7nm the 5nm uses 30% of the Power (or rather the 5950X needs 333% more Power).

Now I am going to stay within the 7950X performance numbers but going from the maximum score I got for the 5950X to the maximum score I can achieve with 7950X at the same power level in terms of Wattage of the 5950X maxed out I get the following:

1. CPU Voltage

7950X at 4.115 GHz 0.83 Volts

7950X at 5.35 GHz 1.2 Volts

For the performance increase it needs 44.5% more voltage

2) CPU clockspeed

7950X at 4.115 GHz

7950X at 5.35 GHz

For the performance increase it needs 29% more clockspeed

3) CPU Wattage

7950X at 4.115 GHz 54 Watts

7950X at 5.35 GHz 177 Watts

For the performance increase it uses 321% more power

4) Difference in CBR23 score

7950X at 4.115 GHz 31,108

7950X at 5.35 GHz 40,210

The score increase is 29.3%

The bottom line here is that for 29% more clockspeed I am getting a score increase of 29.3%

I’ve been trying to research into getting a new laptop, one I can play games on and when I search up the AMD ryzen 7000 series they all say it’s bad but whenever I watch a video on it I end up completely lost because I feel like they’re speaking another language.

I feel like where the 5800x3d was seen as an oddity, an extravagance not really recommended to anyone unless they really wanted peak performance...now several outlets actually presented the 5800x3d as a viable, credible alternative for gaming.

Did anyone else notice this? Is it because moving to AM5 is so expensive that "just" a 5800x3d seems cheap in comparison? Thoughts?

• compilation of 25 launch reviews with ~3050 application benchmarks & ~1680 gaming benchmarks

• stock performance on default power limits, no overclocking, (mostly) default memory speeds

• only gaming benchmarks for real games compiled, not included any 3DMark & Unigine benchmarks

• gaming benchmarks strictly at CPU limited settings, mostly at 720p or 1080p 1%/99th

• application & gaming performance tables split in 2 tables each, because of 15 CPUs compared

• power consumption is strictly for the CPU (package) only, no whole system consumption

• geometric mean in all cases

• application performance average is (moderate) weighted in favor of reviews with more benchmarks

• gaming performance average is (moderate) weighted in favor of reviews with better scaling and more benchmarks

• official MSRPs noted ("Recommended Customer Price" on Intel)

• for Intel's CPUs, F and non-F models were seen as "same" - but the MSRP is always noted for the F model

• retailer prices based on German price search engine Geizhals (on Sep 30, 2022)

• performance results as a graph

• for the full results and more explanations check 3DCenter's Ryzen 7000 Launch Analysis

Source: 3DCenter.org

"Watch AMD Chair and CEO Dr. Lisa Su present “together we advance_PCs” on August 29, 2022, announcing the new Ryzen™ 7000 Series Desktop processor lineup and the new AMD Socket AM5 platform, ushering in a new era of performance for gamers, enthusiasts, and content creators."

Link to YouTube Stream

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AMD Ryzen 7950X / $699

• 16 cores / 32 threads

• 5.7GHz boost / 4.5GHz base

• 80MB L2+L3 cache

• 170W TDP

AMD Ryzen 7900X / $549

• 12 cores / 24 threads

• 5.6GHz boost / 4.7GHz base

• 76MB L2+L3 cache

• 170W TDP

AMD Ryzen 7700X / $399

• 8 cores / 16 threads

• 5.4GHz boost / 4.5GHz base

• 36MB L2+L3 cache

• 105W TDP

AMD Ryzen 7600X / $299

• 6 cores / 12 threads

• 5.3GHz boost / 4.7GHz base

• 38MB L2+L3 cache

• 105W TDP

I'm right now looking into building a PC, but after the announcement for AMD's 7000 series CPUs today, I'm not sure if I should go for the intel I7 12700 or wait for the Ryzen 7000 series. To be honest, if it is going to just be matching Intel's 12th gen in terms of performance, then I will just go for intel.