There's a company called TSMC that makes all the advanced chip technology in the world. To make a better chip, you need to do at least one of the following: Bigger Cheaper More advanced Every few years, TSMC makes a new factory which makes more advanced chips, and then the old factories become cheaper. In 2018 TSMC made a factory. In 2019 AMD moved from using their old machines, to using this TSMC factory. This factory produced Ryzen 3000-5000 (except 3000G), and RX 5000-7000 (except the 7900). Here things like size played a big role. An RX 6500 for example is actually worse than an RX 5500. An RX 7600 is a roughly in the RX 6600-6700 performance levels. However this gave AMD a significant manufacturing advantage over Intel allowing them to beat Intel performance. In 2020 TSMC made a new factory. This factory makes Nvidia RTX 40 & 50. It also makes Ryzen 7000-9000 and the RX 7900 series. Because RTX 50 is made in the same factory with the same technology, most likely to make it better it will probably be: RTX 5090 - bigger - more watts, more RAM, more cores Other SKUs - bigger and/or better value. Maybe 4090 performance at a 4080 price. Maybe 4080 performance at a 4070 price. Unfortunately AMD forgot that memo. Reviewing Ryzen 9000: It's not bigger It's more expensive, not cheaper It's made in the same factory with the same technology So it's not really better than Ryzen 7000. In my opinion, AMD could have rectified this with more cores and better pricing. $300 for a 6 core CPU in 2024 is insane. If they made an 8 core 9600X for $250 - that could have been great. 9000X3D has 2 chances because: AMD could go bigger adding bigger X3D cache to more cores AMD could sabotage the 7800X3D forcing people to buy 9000 for the holiday season so they can show their shareholders that 9000 was not a complete failure But now Intel has pulled an Uno reverse card. Intel is giving up and switching to TSMC's newest 2023 factory this month. This will be the first time since around 2016-2017 that Intel will have a significant manufacturing advantage over AMD. The new Intel CPUs will be made in the same factory with the same technology that AMD will be using in 2026. In 6 months to 1 year - all new parts will be the norm. It might be AMD 9000X3D, it might be Intel Ultra. It might be RTX 50, it might be RX 8000-9000. RemindMe! 3 months Answer from aminy23 on reddit.com
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reddit.com › r/buildapc › 7000 or 9000 cpu?
r/buildapc on Reddit: 7000 or 9000 CPU?
October 6, 2024 -

I’m planning on building a new rig within the next six months to a year and I can’t decide on weather or not to go with a 7000 or 9000 cpu because I’ve heard a lot of reviewers say there isn’t a big difference between the two ?

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There's a company called TSMC that makes all the advanced chip technology in the world. To make a better chip, you need to do at least one of the following: Bigger Cheaper More advanced Every few years, TSMC makes a new factory which makes more advanced chips, and then the old factories become cheaper. In 2018 TSMC made a factory. In 2019 AMD moved from using their old machines, to using this TSMC factory. This factory produced Ryzen 3000-5000 (except 3000G), and RX 5000-7000 (except the 7900). Here things like size played a big role. An RX 6500 for example is actually worse than an RX 5500. An RX 7600 is a roughly in the RX 6600-6700 performance levels. However this gave AMD a significant manufacturing advantage over Intel allowing them to beat Intel performance. In 2020 TSMC made a new factory. This factory makes Nvidia RTX 40 & 50. It also makes Ryzen 7000-9000 and the RX 7900 series. Because RTX 50 is made in the same factory with the same technology, most likely to make it better it will probably be: RTX 5090 - bigger - more watts, more RAM, more cores Other SKUs - bigger and/or better value. Maybe 4090 performance at a 4080 price. Maybe 4080 performance at a 4070 price. Unfortunately AMD forgot that memo. Reviewing Ryzen 9000: It's not bigger It's more expensive, not cheaper It's made in the same factory with the same technology So it's not really better than Ryzen 7000. In my opinion, AMD could have rectified this with more cores and better pricing. $300 for a 6 core CPU in 2024 is insane. If they made an 8 core 9600X for $250 - that could have been great. 9000X3D has 2 chances because: AMD could go bigger adding bigger X3D cache to more cores AMD could sabotage the 7800X3D forcing people to buy 9000 for the holiday season so they can show their shareholders that 9000 was not a complete failure But now Intel has pulled an Uno reverse card. Intel is giving up and switching to TSMC's newest 2023 factory this month. This will be the first time since around 2016-2017 that Intel will have a significant manufacturing advantage over AMD. The new Intel CPUs will be made in the same factory with the same technology that AMD will be using in 2026. In 6 months to 1 year - all new parts will be the norm. It might be AMD 9000X3D, it might be Intel Ultra. It might be RTX 50, it might be RX 8000-9000. RemindMe! 3 months
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Why are you deciding 6 months to a year in advance? The CPU market will be completely different by then, with many new CPU releases
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BOXX Technologies
boxx.com › blog › hardware › amd-ryzen-9000-series-vs-7000-series-processors-enhancements-for-your-workflow
AMD Ryzen 9000 vs 7000 Processors | BOXX Workstations
August 8, 2024 - Widely Compatible: These processors ... on an advanced “Zen 5” architecture, AMD Ryzen 9000 Series processors offer significant upgrades over the previous 7000 series generation....
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reddit.com › r/buildapc › is there a huge difference between the ryzen 7000 and ryzen 9000?
r/buildapc on Reddit: Is there a huge difference between the ryzen 7000 and ryzen 9000?
December 2, 2024 -

I stopped being crazy about computers in 2021, because i finally got a pc and never had the money to upgrade. But now im ready to upgrade, and have two likely options for a cpu: 7700x and 9900x. the difference in price is 350 to 440 pre tax (usd) which seems way too good to be true, since thats around a 20% difference for a 50% core/thread increase. thats why im skeptical about my options. i mostly play fps games and a bit of other games on the side like black myth wukong, and im getting into cyberpunk later. ill be pairing it with either a 4070 super or 7900 xtx.

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XDA Developers
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3 major reasons Ryzen 7000 beats Ryzen 9000 for gaming
November 6, 2024 - AMD had to unlock a new power limit ... dismal performance numbers. In contrast, the Ryzen 7000 CPUs promise a more stable, cheaper, and equally powerful gaming PC for any new builder....
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Box
box.co.uk › blog › amd-9000-worth-upgrade-from-amd-7000
Is AMD 9000 Worth the Upgrade from AMD 7000
September 23, 2024 - This new architecture brings several key improvements over the Ryzen 7000, including enhanced instructions per cycle/clock (IPC), higher clock speeds, better memory support, and advanced AI capabilities.
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Puget Systems
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AMD Ryzen 9000: Performance vs Previous Generations | Puget Systems
August 16, 2024 - Although they are noticeably more efficient than their last-gen Ryzen 7000 counterparts in all-core workloads, they otherwise offer little incentive for most users to upgrade: Relatively modest performance gains of 5-15%, slight increases in ...
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Sbpcmechanic
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AMD Ryzen 7000 vs. 9000 Series: Find Your Perfect Match
October 31, 2024 - This similarity means that, for most users, the performance gains may be modest, and the 7000 series still offers strong value. The Ryzen 9000 series delivers improvements in AI capabilities, memory support, and integrated graphics. However, for most users, the performance difference may not ...
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YouTube
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What is the difference between Ryzen 7000 series and 9000 series CPU's | #shorts - YouTube
What is the difference between Ryzen 7000 series and 9000 series CPU's?Today we take a look at that to see what the biggest differences are.-----------------...
Published   February 24, 2025
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Puget Systems
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AMD Ryzen 9000 Content Creation Review | Puget Systems
October 3, 2024 - Core count and cache are identical, and base and maximum frequencies are very similar. Some key differences are that the 9000-series processors support higher maximum memory frequencies (5600 Mbps vs.
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Ars Technica
arstechnica.com › gadgets › 2024 › 08 › amd-ryzen-9000-review-impressive-efficiency-with-bugs-and-so-so-speed-boosts
AMD Ryzen 9000 review: Impressive efficiency, with bugs and so-so speed boosts - Ars Technica
August 15, 2024 - Compared to the Ryzen 7000 launch, ... (mandatory) DDR5 support, and a brand-new processor socket all at once, the Ryzen 9000 launch is downright placid....
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Sportskeeda
sportskeeda.com › home › gaming tech › ryzen 9000 vs ryzen 7000 series: price and performance compared
Ryzen 9000 vs Ryzen 7000 series: Price and performance compared
June 3, 2024 - The new Zen 5-based chips have brought decent improvements in Instructions Per Cycle/Clock (IPC), faster DDR5 RAM speeds natively, and significantly increased AI performance over the Ryzen 7000 series.
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Tom's Hardware
tomshardware.com › pc components › cpus
AMD updates Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 benchmark comparisons to Intel chips — details 'Admin' boost coming to Windows 11, chipset driver fix | Tom's Hardware
August 22, 2024 - "On a generational basis, Ryzen 9000 Series delivers a ~10% improvement in productivity and creative workloads, ~25% improvement in AI workloads, and 5-8% improvement in gaming over the Ryzen 7000 Series," AMD states.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/amdhelp › upgrade: ryzen 7000 vs 9000
r/AMDHelp on Reddit: Upgrade: Ryzen 7000 vs 9000
February 22, 2025 -

So I built my PC about 7-8 years ago, and have upgraded parts since. I currently have a MAG B550 Tomahawk (Just purchased), 6700XT Gpu (fairly new), 16gb ram, and a Ryzen 7 5800X with Arctic Liquid Freezer AIO cooling.

As soon as I upgraded to the 5800X It started overheating (after reapplying enough paste and redoing it a few times) so I thought I would upgrade to an AIO liquid cooler setup. The change was almost unnoticeable, maybe a few degrees smaller, but still super high. I made sure there were no overclock settings checked in the bios. After a bit of research I found lots of people have the same problem. I rode with it till my motherboard fried from slightly pushing her limits. (I had a funky matlab code running while hulu and a few other things may have been open). I want to be safe, plus I dont feel like gaming at 80-90+c is ok in the long run.

TLDR; trying to decide which cpu to upgrade, along with a 6700xt are the differences going worth the price difference?:

Ryzen 7 9700X is 312, 7800X3D is $429

Ryzen 9: 7900X is $360, 9900X is $380, 7950X is $480 ( slightly out of price range, honorable mention)

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So, I just put together a 9700x build for someone, and with a peerless assassin air cooler, it can not get over 51c with 100% load from cinnebench. It's incredibly cool. Part of that though is because it also comes super undervolted, with a ultra low stock ppt at 100 watts, when the thing can clearly take a ton more power and still remain efficient. It can demolish any games put on it though, and if yu value hyper efficency and cool teps, this maybe the one for you! I own a 9900x, and that thing hits much higher speeds stock because of it's much higher 160 watt ppt, though gets much higher temps, with my artec freezer 360 AIO cooler it hits around 68c under full cennebench loads, with each core at around 5300 ghz. A large increase from the stock 9700 which only has enough power to get all cores up to around 4700 gzh(Though it does it as an incredibly low power draw and low heat) That being said, the 9900x has it's ccd's split, which causes inefficiency for gaming, thinking of it as two processors being glued together, while the 9700x is jsut one single one. I have not noticed it being that big of an inefficiency though I think the Ryzen 9000 series is a very nice upgrade over the 7000's, and would 100% go with one of those. The 9800 x3d has a ppt of around 160 watts, so that's why it crushes so hard stock compared to other ones. I dont think it's just the 3d cache, I think a massive pat is the higher stock power limits letting it run where it shoudld. TLDER: Ryzen 9000 series are awesome, a 9700x or a 9900x will be an amazing processor, though the 9700is ultra cool and will need to be overclocked to get the most out of it, the 9900x wont need a OC but has the ccd issue, both game amazingly. The thermals are much better from the 7000s to the 9000s, and the improvement in IPC is always great. I would imagine a 9800 x3d would get temps around my 9900x, as they use the same amount of power, and if you game, I think it would be the most powerful option. I absolutely love my 9900x for gaming, it does use all 12 cores on newer stuff(And on older stuff, it dumps all it's ppt into the cores it can use, so it performs super well in all situations that ive seen) and is fast as fuck ha
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Tom's Hardware Forum
forums.tomshardware.com › home › graphics cards
Question - Of the AMD Ryzen 7000 and 9000 series CPUs, which for free? | Tom's Hardware Forum
November 30, 2024 - Assuming full availability, at face value for long-term viability and all-around performance (including gaming), which should I collect of: 7900X3D 7950X3D 9700X 9800X3D A top 3 with brief reasoning would be appreciated. I would probably get the 9800X3D over the 9700, but I'm not sure about the high-end 7000s.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/argamingconsultas › don't overspend on the ryzen 9000 if an equivalent 7000 is cheaper.
r/ArgamingConsultas on Reddit: Don't overspend on the Ryzen 9000 if an equivalent 7000 is cheaper.
September 9, 2025 -

I'll keep it short since the video explains it well. Except for specific cases, the average improvement between equivalent Zen4 and Zen5 (7600X vs 9600X), after a year since Zen5 came out, went from 5% to 6%.

I'm not saying never buy a Ryzen 9000 series, but if a 7000 is cheaper for you, that extra money can go to the GPU, memory, storage, or a cooler case if you feel like it.

If the price difference is nothing, go for the 9000, in the future we should start having programs that take good advantage of AVX-512 or AVX-10.1 (it's the same but properly standardized), and the performance in professional tasks is much better than in games.

The bottleneck of the current AM5s is the input/output circuit, the IO die, since it has a pretty mediocre memory controller (hence the 6000 MHz memory limit for Ryzen while Intel is laughing its ass off with 8000 or more), and it also limits bandwidth in connectivity. Apparently they'll fix it with Zen6 next year.

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PC Gamer
pcgamer.com › hardware › processors
AMD's new Ryzen 9000 CPUs are officially up to $50 cheaper than the old 7000 series were at launch | PC Gamer
August 7, 2024 - To be more precise, they're cheaper than the launch prices for Ryzen 7000 from two years ago. Most Ryzen 7000 models are now available for quite a bit less than those 2022 launch prices.
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TweakReviews
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AMD Ryzen 9000 is not faster than Ryzen 7000 - TWEAK
With its Zen 5 architecture, AMD delivers a solid +16% IPC improvement to its next-generation high-performance CPUs known as Ryzen 9000. The company showed an impressive +56% lead over Intel's flagship Core i9-14900K CPU in multi-threaded ...
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TikTok
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Ryzen 9000 vs Ryzen 7000! Worth the Upgrade? 🤔 #pcbuild #pcgaming #ryzen #cpus #fyp | TikTok
831 Likes, 28 Comments. TikTok video from GeekaWhat (@geekawhat): “Ryzen 9000 vs Ryzen 7000! Worth the Upgrade? 🤔 #pcbuild #pcgaming #ryzen #cpus #fyp”. original sound - James Cousins - GeekaWhat.
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GameFAQs
gamefaqs.gamespot.com › pc › hardware › console
ryzen 9000 sucks? barely any difference to ryzen 7000? - PC
August 7, 2024 - For PC on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "ryzen 9000 sucks? barely any difference to ryzen 7000?" - Page 6.