Just use Curve Optimizer in the BIOS and you don't need to second guess everything. You generally want to handle this type of tweaking within the BIOS anyways. Answer from nhc150 on reddit.com
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reddit.com › r/overclocking › ryzen master curve optimizer verses bios curve optimizer?
r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen Master Curve Optimizer verses Bios Curve Optimizer?
April 14, 2023 -

Can someone familiar with Ryzen Master in Windows, using it with a 7950x 3D or similar, tell me the difference between tweaking an undervolt curve optimized setting within the Ryzen Master, verses going into the Bios and setting it there with the curve optimizer settings, which the latest Bio revisions, going back a few seem to permit? Appreciate anyone who can shed light on the differences as I have used both and am not sure how the interact with each other if setting in Bios then running our curve optimizing in Ryzen Master w/Windows 11. Regards, James

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reddit.com › r/amd › my findings with the new curve optimizer with amd ryzen master
r/Amd on Reddit: My findings with the new curve optimizer with AMD Ryzen Master
April 17, 2022 -

So I have done about 9-12 hours extensive testings.

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You WILL have to know your max PPT, TDC, EDC else this is just waste of time doing it and you will just be using default values which give you more aggressive under-volt than you might had opted before manually before using this.

Make sure to set those values in bios before moving on else you will just see default values in there no matter if you pick auto oc, or pbo, this was the case at least for me it would not pickup anything else than default values in software until manually set in bios.

So go to bios set values for those and set everything else on auto in PBO menu.


Verify and run a test just to verify settings are applied like on this screenshot, you don't have to run a full test if your settings where not added correct, go back and do it again.

My 5900X can handle these

PPT 185

TDC 125

EDC 170

Screen after completion..

https://i.imgur.com/otgetEQ.png

Video running test being stable for now and screen from HWiNFO just after finished tests.


Setup

5900X B0 Stepping early unit, not first week tho.

Asus x570-I ITX - Bios 4204 with AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.6b

3080 FE

16GB F4-3600C15-8GTZ

SF600

All in a loque ghost s1 case with some vector EK cooling setup on all parts.

All this was done by upgrading to latest bios, resetting bios to make sure no old values was stock and I only touched RAM timings with and dram voltage and PPT, TDC, EDC, PBO scalar x10, overclock 200mhz, rest was injected by ryzen masters into the bios settings after hitting apply.


Overall AMD have done a amazing job with this, even noobs can overclock and undervolt proper now 10/10 AMD clap clap

Do you wish to do it your self grab latest version here

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

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reddit.com › r/amdhelp › 5900x curve optimizer (ryzen master vs. bios)
r/AMDHelp on Reddit: 5900X Curve Optimizer (Ryzen Master vs. BIOS)
March 19, 2025 - I tried setting undervolt manually in BIOS through the curve optimizer there, took a lot of trial and error and never really found a stable setup. Alas, I decided to give the auto-optimizer in Ryzen Master a try. And to my surprise, it gave a completely different set of values, I put them in the CO in BIOS manually, and voilà!
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Tom's Hardware Forum
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Question - Ryzen Master Curve Optimizer | Tom's Hardware Forum
September 6, 2024 - I haven't used Ryzen Master since ... to apply more voltage at a given clock speed, You can increase your all core boost by playing with curve optimizer as the CPU just wont need to dump a ton of voltage when it doesn't need to....
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hardforum.com › [h]ard|ware › amd processors
Curve Optimizer and 5800x3d | [H]ard|Forum
April 26, 2024 - But some motherboard manufacturers later added Curve Optimizer and PBO support back into the BIOS for the 5800X3D anyway, without AMD's blessing. If you have one of these boards, it doesn't surprise me at all that curve optimizer and/or PBO would "work" in the BIOS but would still not be available via AMD's official Ryzen Master software.
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reddit.com › r/overclocking › proper ryzen master usage for curve optimizer?
r/overclocking on Reddit: Proper Ryzen Master usage for curve optimizer?
December 21, 2023 -

(I have a 7950x) So i downloaded ryzen master to run the benchmark that supposedly finds the best pbo2 negative offset for maximum efficiency gains and it gave me all cores -30. the problem is that i enabled that in my bios but it is not stable at all. I found that it was because i had a specific option enabled that let my cpu boost to 5.7ghz in medium loads instead of 5.5ghz but i want a way to retain the medium boost while also reducing the voltage as much as possible. does anyone have a link to the most detailed possible ryzen undervolting setup? thanks

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reddit.com › r/overclocking › ryzen master and curve optimizer
r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen Master and Curve Optimizer
May 17, 2022 -

I want to set up Curve for my 5600x, but when I start optimization through RM, then EVERY test for some reason gives me one number (-25) for all cores, even though I chose Per Core, what am I doing wrong? How to force RM to select numbers correctly? Sorry for my English, I'm from Serbia myself.

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reddit.com › r/overclocking › applying curve optimizer in bios - ryzen master shows co is off, benchmarks low, temps high
r/overclocking on Reddit: Applying Curve Optimizer in Bios - Ryzen Master shows CO is off, Benchmarks Low, Temps High
October 31, 2024 -

To summarize, I downsized from a Lian Li O11 Dynamic to a Lian Li A3.

All same components, only motherboard change:

Motherboard - (was) AsRock X570 Steel Legend -> to -> (currently installed) MSI B550m MAG Mortar Wifi

CPU - Ryzen 5800X3D

Cooler - Corsair H150i AIO (360mm)

Memory - 4x8gb Acer Apollo DDR4 4000mhz CL17

GPU - RTX 4080 FE

PSU - EVGA Supernova 1000

etc.

I downsized my PC and went from an AsRock X570 Steel Legend to a MSI B550m MAG Mortar Wifi.

Before I could apply Curve Optimizer settings either through the bios or Ryzen Master in the Curve Optimizer tab on the AsRock X570 mobo. Results were great with all core boost stable at 4.425ghz at 72C, and CPU scores of ~5500 with 3DMark 4K TimeSpy.

The MSI B550m mobo has Curve Optimizer settings in the bios but I believe it isn't applying. Reasons being Ryzen Master no longer shows the Curve Optimizer settings tab, as well it states that Curve Optimizer is "Off". And now I can't get a 3DMark 4K TimeSpy CPU score above 5100. As well my temps are higher nearing 80C. Curve Optimizer in the bios set to "Auto" (there is no off option) and the scores are the same.

I am at work so I can't grab a screenshot of the ryzen master screen but I will when I get home.

I Submitted a ticket with MSI, hoping to get an answer, but if anyone has any insight I'd love to hear it.

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hardforum.com › [h]ard|ware › amd processors
Ryzen Master - PBO Curve Optimizer Control - Configure in Windows Now! | [H]ard|Forum
April 20, 2022 - So I got my 5950X installed earlier today and was messing around with trying to cool this baby down and decided to give the auto-curve optimizer a go. It attempted to set everything to -30 offset which was so unstable that I had to reset my entire BIOS to get the system to boot again. I have a lot to learn it seems. ... My computer got shut down due to a quick power outage today. I can't use my UPS because my computer draws more power than it can handle. Anyway, I verified that Ryzen Master had put the curve optimizer settings into BIOS, but today performance is way off.
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reddit.com › r/amd › ryzen master curve optimizer, how to know it's really applied?
r/Amd on Reddit: Ryzen Master Curve Optimizer, how to know it's really applied?
June 19, 2022 -

✅ I already did the "Automatic Optimizer", it took about 1h 45m to complete, then it restarted.

✅ If i see this screen, this mean it's applied?

✅ Because if i restart and go to the BIOS, i don't see any changes in the CO.

✅ Also, i can close RM and the CO will still runing right or need to keep it opened?

✅ And for last, i should activate Max CPU Boost Clock Override?

Thx in advance!

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Never fuck with software for these jobs - all BIOS and no automatic shit. Personally I only took free gains within stock limits. Slammed +200MHz max boost override (may be too high for higher clocked chips as yours you have to test it for yourself how much it can handle - which may be especially problematic if you push stock power limits a lot). Then I went to per core optimizer - started at -15 (from the middle), followed by up to 20min of OCCT - ones that spill error - lower, others increase the offset at the increments of 5 (anything in between is just waste of time), this ended up at -30, -30, -25, -30, -10, -30 and did final test 2 hours of OCCT and just over an hour of blended Prime95. Like 3 weeks and not a single whea or other issues. So yeah, not that hard of a job to be bother with some damn software and max boost offset is worth mostly for gaming where it's the limiting factor (not your PPT, EDC and TDC). Got about 80pts gain for single core in Cinebench R23 which is nice and CPU in games mostly holds 4.65GHz instead of stock 4.4GHz because game are up to moderate load.
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honestly, you know its not worth your time when you literally cannot tell the difference. From actions you done i can see that you are not the type of a guy who spends days/weeks to tune your system and enjoys the process that is completely fine. Your stock setup is good enough, enjoy it, play some games or whatever you like doing with your pc. I honestly dont recommend touching CO for users who dont know exactly what are they doing and for what they are doing it.
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reddit.com › r/amdhelp › how good is ryzen master's curve optimizer automation?
r/AMDHelp on Reddit: How good is Ryzen Master's Curve Optimizer automation?
July 24, 2023 -

Had my 5600 for nearly a year, now, and want to have a bit of fun with it. Going to try some CO, but I'm not in a position to use the "manual" methods - how good is the automation routine in Ryzen Master?

Has anybody tried it? Does it come up with stable values? I'm not bothered if it's too conservative - I'd rather it be 90% of the way there, and stable, than split hairs for the last ten percent.

I'm prepared to test with OCCT core cycling, if need be.

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reddit.com › r/amd › messing with pbo and curve optimizer in ryzen master? am i supposed to be able to raise ppt, tdc and edc?
r/Amd on Reddit: Messing with PBO and Curve Optimizer in Ryzen Master? Am I supposed to be able to raise PPT, TDC and EDC?
February 27, 2023 -

I'm running a 5600x and I've gone into my BIOS (Asrock X470 Taichi) and have PBO set to advanced with max boost clock at 200 and I've tried PBO Limits set to Manual, auto, motherboard and disabled. With it set to motherboard or manual, the home page on Ryzen Master displays values well above what it says on any settings I try to change. It shows a PPT of 740, 480 TDC and a 650 EDC. When I go to any manual settings, my max is 76/60/90. No matter what I set in BIOS and what the home page for Ryzen Master says, those are my limits on anything I try. As far as I know, I'm supposed to be able to change these, right?

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reddit.com › r/sffpc › ryzen curve optimizer
r/sffpc on Reddit: Ryzen curve optimizer
January 21, 2024 -

So first thanks to the few tips on the hardware choices, my terra build worked first time. 7900x, in eco mode, 32gb 6000mhz ram and a 6700x. All expertly built by my 9 year old, it was fun teaching about building computers.

I want to ask about this Ryzen tool that is supposed to automatically curve optimize. My system was stable in eco 105w mode, memory clocked at 6000mhz and the temps are cool - the heat sink cool to touch and ~40oC idle, all nice.

After the optimization finished I had to apply the settings it suggested -36. This made a bsod boot loop immediately after the sign in screen, kmode exception not handled. I had to clear CMOS to get back.

I confess even in my experience of 20+ years I've never really overclocked, I favor stability and don't like to push it if it's fast enough already. As I understand these curve optimizer settings aren't overclocking, but running at peak efficiency.

So what is the problem, the suggested settings are just way off? Do I even need curve optimization? I'm interested in cooler temps without changing the cooling solution and power efficiency.

I also read that we should have done curve optimization with a clear bios, I had eco mode (105w) and expo enabled in the bios?

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XDA Developers
xda-developers.com › home › cpu › how to use amd ryzen master
How to use AMD Ryzen Master
December 12, 2024 - We'll use Profile 1 to show the various overclocking modes you can use. Profile 2 is simply an additional profile, and the Curve Optimizer section enables you to undervolt your processor to allow for a cooler operation.
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reddit.com › r/amd › ryzen master vs motherboard bios?
r/Amd on Reddit: Ryzen Master VS Motherboard BIOS?
July 20, 2023 -

Hey guys, I was messing with the CPU speeds and trying to Set up PBO/ Overclocking. Both the Ryzen master software and Bios has the opportunity to change the clock speeds and overclock, wondering what if best to change it on, should I change both? When I change one it works, but the other one doesn’t change… thanks

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Curve optimizer values not working in bios | Overclock.net
I have a 7600x. I run ryzen master auto tuning per core curve optimizer and come came up with negative values. 26-26-26-24-26-26. Uninstall Ryzen master and made a clear cmos. Then i enter valeus above in curve optimizer and i had a boot loop (automatic repair). I had to use -20 all core in...