Since the launch of the Zen2 family, there appeared numerous questions regarding the meaning and reliability of several parameters reported by different tools due to different methods used to retrieve operating parameters. With the recent updates to Ryzen Master (RM) the confusion has grown even bigger as no other tool was able to match the same values reported officially. AMD has issued several clarifications explaining the meaning and reasons for the way why and how these parameters are reported in RM. The most important point was that modern CPUs are very dynamic and their parameters can change hundreds of times per second. A rate with which no software is able to cope to sufficiently represent such a dynamic behavior. I fully agree with these statements and hence, HWiNFO has recently undergone several significant changes in order to better reflect such system dynamics with respect to the above requirements.
The first important addition was reporting of the Effective Clock which does much better reflect the highly dynamic CPU clocks including sleeping states. This has been explained in more detail here: https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/effective-clock-vs-instant-discrete-clock.5958/
Today (pure coincidentally on the Thanksgiving Day), HWiNFO in version 6.15-4020 Beta is introducing reporting of several additional parameters that have been asked by the community:
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CPU Die (average) temperature. This temperature should be covering CPU execution cores only and the value is an average across a certain interval to avoid reporting of undesirable instant peaks. It should be on par with the temperature reported by RM.
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PPT, TDC and EDC limits and actual values along with percentage of the actual limit.
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Infinity Fabric Clock (FCLK). This value should now be reported on all Zen2-based systems (in the past it was available in some special cases only).
Availability of these new values depends on BIOS/firmware version, so make sure to upgrade to the latest versions. Ryzen Master is not required to be installed.
Martin
HWiNFO Author
This is fantastic. Many thanks Martin.
Hi Martin thanks for the update.
I dont know if anyone else has this issue with HWINFO but for me it causes issues with my Corsair AIO when I open the sensor page. Causes my pump and fans to constantly reset and the RGB to get all messed up and flicker or freeze.
I dont have this issue with Ryzen master but unfortunately that has far less sensor data available and I would love to use HWinfo for benchmarking.
I have Ryzen 9 3900X. X570 Taichi. Corsair H100i platinum SE and yes Im using iCUE. Although the issues still happen when iCUE has been completely stopped in task manager. Its a little scary to hear my pump turn off for a second then restart. Does it every 15-30 seconds or so when I open sensor page in HWinfo.
Hey guys, I've been running my new cpu through benchmarks to see if I pasted properly and I'm getting a mismatch between HWInfo and Ryzen master.
For some reason the temp display on Ryzen Master will never drop below 50, but it'll accurately display the temp when its higher like when I'm doing a stress test. (Running OCCT gives me a high of around 82-84 degrees using a phantom spirit.)
So I guess my question is twofold: 1. which readout is more accurate? 2. Are these idle/load temps acceptable or do I have to repaste?
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I'm noticing Ryzen Master sometimes showing my 5800x running up to 10 degrees cooler. I was a bit worried about the readings in HWMonitor, but if Ryzen Master is telling the truth, my thermals aren't so bad after all.
My R5 3600, according to thirdparty applications, boost to 4.2Ghz on all cores. When looking at Ryzen Master, it shows vastly different numbers.
https://imgur.com/7hDiElJ
How come these applications shows such a difference?
Hey, I was wondering if anyone else noticed that the clock speeds reported by the Ryzen Master Tool are quite different from what HWInfo says in some scenarios.
The Screenshot was taken while in Guild Wars 2, which is mostly using 3 cores as you can see by the thread usage in HWInfo. Now whereas HWInfo shows 4 cores around 4.3GHz and the other 4 cores between 3.4 and 3.6GHz, Ryzen Master doesn't show a single core above 4GHz, however the cores that got the highest boost are matching the ones that got the most load in HWInfo.
If I run a Cinebench multi benchmark, clockspeeds are in line with HWInfo, if I run a single benchmark, the fastest core is also in line with HWInfo although all other cores are much lower than HWInfo says (mostly in sleep so there's the reason HWInfo didn't get any updated clockspeeds so it's using the old ones)
But while gaming almost all cores are active all the time so HWInfo and Ryzen Master should also show roughly the same thing here, but the don't
So what do you think is more reasonable to believe for a gaming Situation?
https://imgur.com/gQ0RGOZ
IIRC Ryzen Master shows some kind of an average over a certain timespan, which'll including downclocking and maybe even idling. HWInfo shows the frequency at the moment the core was probed.
From AMD blog:
Effective Frequency: The frequency of the processor cores after factoring in time spent in sleep states (e.g. cc6 core sleep or pc6 package sleep). Example: One processor core is running at 4GHz while awake, but in cc6 core sleep for 50% of the sample period. The effective frequency of this core would be 2GHz. This value can give you a feel for how often the cores are using aggressive power management capabilities that aren’t immediately obvious (e.g. clock or voltage changes).
Ryzen Master shows effective Frequency.
i,
Which software should I trust for the prefered core and OC optimizer? Seems the informations are quite different. My bet is Ryzern master but just in case...
thanks
Hello.
Please help me...
I own Ryzen 5900x with Corsair H115i AIO cooling.
I know that 60 - 65 degrees celcius are perfectly fine when gaming but Ryzen master says my CPU is kinda burning.
I opened the back of my computer case. Put my hand on the cpu thing. It is warm but i can not say that it is 75 degrees.. Maybe 60 - 65 degrees.
Also i installed HWinfo for cpu temperature reading... It only shows "CPU CCD2" temps.
Which one should i rely on? Ryzen Master or CPU CCD2 or else?
Thank you!
Gaming : https://i.vgy.me/kck33r.jpg
HWINFO : https://i.vgy.me/iMlsal.jpg
Ryzen Master : https://i.vgy.me/CZnwN5.jpg