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I'm noticing Ryzen Master sometimes showing my 5800x running up to 10 degrees cooler. I was a bit worried about the readings in HWMonitor, but if Ryzen Master is telling the truth, my thermals aren't so bad after all.
Since the launch of the Zen2 family, there appeared numerous questions regarding the meaning and reliability of several parameters reported by different tools due to different methods used to retrieve operating parameters. With the recent updates to Ryzen Master (RM) the confusion has grown even bigger as no other tool was able to match the same values reported officially. AMD has issued several clarifications explaining the meaning and reasons for the way why and how these parameters are reported in RM. The most important point was that modern CPUs are very dynamic and their parameters can change hundreds of times per second. A rate with which no software is able to cope to sufficiently represent such a dynamic behavior. I fully agree with these statements and hence, HWiNFO has recently undergone several significant changes in order to better reflect such system dynamics with respect to the above requirements.
The first important addition was reporting of the Effective Clock which does much better reflect the highly dynamic CPU clocks including sleeping states. This has been explained in more detail here: https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/effective-clock-vs-instant-discrete-clock.5958/
Today (pure coincidentally on the Thanksgiving Day), HWiNFO in version 6.15-4020 Beta is introducing reporting of several additional parameters that have been asked by the community:
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CPU Die (average) temperature. This temperature should be covering CPU execution cores only and the value is an average across a certain interval to avoid reporting of undesirable instant peaks. It should be on par with the temperature reported by RM.
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PPT, TDC and EDC limits and actual values along with percentage of the actual limit.
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Infinity Fabric Clock (FCLK). This value should now be reported on all Zen2-based systems (in the past it was available in some special cases only).
Availability of these new values depends on BIOS/firmware version, so make sure to upgrade to the latest versions. Ryzen Master is not required to be installed.
Martin
HWiNFO Author
This is fantastic. Many thanks Martin.
Hi Martin thanks for the update.
I dont know if anyone else has this issue with HWINFO but for me it causes issues with my Corsair AIO when I open the sensor page. Causes my pump and fans to constantly reset and the RGB to get all messed up and flicker or freeze.
I dont have this issue with Ryzen master but unfortunately that has far less sensor data available and I would love to use HWinfo for benchmarking.
I have Ryzen 9 3900X. X570 Taichi. Corsair H100i platinum SE and yes Im using iCUE. Although the issues still happen when iCUE has been completely stopped in task manager. Its a little scary to hear my pump turn off for a second then restart. Does it every 15-30 seconds or so when I open sensor page in HWinfo.
On Ryzen master, it displays my temperatures for my CPU to be lower (about 40-50C idle) contrasting that to CPUID HWMonitor showcasing it to be 10C higher (50-60C); is one more accurate than the other?
Hey guys, I've been running my new cpu through benchmarks to see if I pasted properly and I'm getting a mismatch between HWInfo and Ryzen master.
For some reason the temp display on Ryzen Master will never drop below 50, but it'll accurately display the temp when its higher like when I'm doing a stress test. (Running OCCT gives me a high of around 82-84 degrees using a phantom spirit.)
So I guess my question is twofold: 1. which readout is more accurate? 2. Are these idle/load temps acceptable or do I have to repaste?