Hey everyone,
So I wanted to understand what exactly is the purpose/scope of the security clearance and how decisions are made with respect to staffing.
I have been offered a job with the government, and I am sort of worried about the clearance. I know I have a record, but I also have a lot of character references that I had drafted for me by people not related to me. I have some very good letters and so far I am surprised and happy to see that a section of the clearance forms actually accounts for that.
I was previously offered a job with an accou8nting firm this year, and upon doing the background check, I had my offer rescinded. They had no section for character references and did not care for any of that and flat out refused me for a job.
How does it work at the government level? I have been told numerous times, in person specifically, by other individuals that you can actually get a job even with a record. My hope is that the clearance is simply to find if you have an element of criminality, so do you live a life of an actual criminal and commit crimes left to right and center, or do you simply have a record and that's it. Some of the character references I have are from two clients of mine, for a business I own while going through University, and these are accounting-based clients...so I am dealing with their sensitive information. I feel that it could be huge for me.
Any thoughts?
Hello,
I applied for a job that requires reliability Clearance. From my understanding, for a simple request(I have lived here all my life), it should only take about a week.
HR has mentioned I should do the clearance while working for them(they say it can take up to 6 months), but that means if it were to fail, I'd be left jobless. I currently already have a job and am very hesitant of leaving before I get the clearance. The job market is terrible and this feels like a big risk for me.
I think my odds of failing are low, but there are some things that worry me. In the past I've been very late(a few years) on doing my taxes. I'm all caught up now except for my 2016 taxes but I need to file those by mail which I plan to do.
I'm afraid this could hurt my chances.
Is it normal to ask that I complete my reliability clearance before I give my notice at my current job?
I'll be likely required to get a security clearance in the next year or so. I'm just wondering what they actually 'look into'?
I'm into some rather kinky stuff (not illegal by any means) - do they actually search your browsing history or is it just something that comes up during the interview? Do they care about stuff like that? I'm married and look at pornography, is that a big deal? (my wife also 'partakes' with me...)
Also, how extensive is the financial review? Is it just a credit check or do they access your bank accounts and such? I don't have anything to hide but it just seems weird to me that it matters what my finances are like. . .
They won't care about your porn habits as long as it's nothing illegal, and realistically it's not something they're going to delve into. It's not like they're going to seize your computer and do a full forensic audit.
The same goes for your finances - they aren't going to look at your bank account transactions and freak out because you've spent thousands at Whips n' Things or Bondage R Us. The goal of the credit check is to confirm that your finances aren't in such a terrible shape (i.e. nearly bankrupt) that you'll be a financial risk or susceptible to bribery.
See Appendix B for what they check at each level
https://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?id=28115
How long does it take for a security clearance check if you are born outside of Canada but have a boring background?
Thanks
Hello, I am looking for some advice and feedback regarding my application process. I applied for a Payment Services Officer position several weeks ago and was selected to complete the necessary exams, completed a phone interview and provided references (who have been contacted already and submitted their responses). The interview was conducted on a Monday, references were contacted Monday night (to be submitted by Wednesday) and I was asked to complete the Security Clearance form on Tuesday (I have a clear record).
I read several dozen reddit threads on the hiring process and understand that it can be lengthy, unpredictable and often inconsistent from department to department, especially during COVID 19.
I haven't heard back from the hiring manager in 2 weeks now, and since the other aspects of the application were so quick ( less than a day in some cases) I am wondering if I was eliminated already from the process and would they contact me to let me know that I was not selected? Alternatively, could it be possible that the security clearance is taking a longer time? Could they have just collected all the information at once (interview responses, references and security clearance) and are only reviewing it after the fact to see who is qualified, rather than the regular linear approach?
At which time would it be acceptable to reach out to the hiring manager to follow up? After 2 weeks? 4 weeks? Longer?
Thank you very much for your responses!
I submitted my secret security clearance about 1.7 years ago and still have had no update or progress on approval or rejection. I am starting also to get a bit cranky with my position because I cannot do the fun work unless I have that clearance and I also want to move up. The only thing stopping my career is my security clearance. What should I do? Below were options, I was thinking about- but if you have additional strategies they are welcomed.
Option #1: I have been thinking about leaving my department to resubmit in another department and then returning back. I am hoping the only factor affecting how long it takes is my department which is known for long and lengthy clearances. It seems my friends from other departments are getting their clearances faster which I do not understand because they have more of a "history" than I do. Add inflation into the mix I could be earning 2x more my salary if I just had that clearance.
Option #2: Become a consultant- it seems that consultants get their clearance faster through their agencies.
Option #3: Leave the PS for a private sector job- Just go private!
Hello,
Found some job postings on the Canada.ca jobs site that mention Secret security clearance.
Do I need to be a citizen to be eligible for this job or is a PR good enough.
Hi everyone,
So new PR in Canada, got offered an IT role pending Reliability clearance.
From what I'm reading online its a 5 year background check but im curious as to what they do if you haven't been in Canada for 5 years. I understand that i will need to provide a police report from back home similar to when i was completing the PR process. As well as my employment history.
But in terms of Credit check, is it only the Canadian Credit history that they look at or do they expect me to provide/ or they look into my credit back home? I have nothing to hide so its more curiosity more than anything.
Has anyone went through this scenario recently and know what it entails if you haven't been here for the 5 years.
Cheers
Guys i have a question. I had been applying to get into engineering positions and was told that i need a security clearance of secret for that. My current job needs reliability. In my previous searches for an upgrade in clearance, my understanding was that it is given as per job requirement ( so as per that they wont give me the upgrade unless my current job requires that) but the engineering manager i interviewed with said i need to already have it and should apply for it by myself. Am i missing something here or is this a vicious circle where you need to have the clearance for a job and you cant get it unless u have the job?
My job requires me to obtain Secret Level II RCMP clearance. I don’t have a criminal record but am concerned about some other things that could possibly make me fail. If someone fails this and wants to apply to a full Government job with Clearances in the future, can they reapply and how long after? Any idea how often people fail these?
TBS just updated the Directive on Security Screening to require that anyone receiving a new/renewed TS clearance to be a Canadian citizen (and a few other things). They also said anyone currently holding TS clearance that isn't a Canadian citizen will retain it until it is time for renewal.
I'm curious as to what that would mean for a non-Canadian citizen not being able to renew that level of clearance. My assumption is the department would have to find them an equivalent position requiring a lower clearance.
This policy change doesn't affect me, just wondering what would happen.
I have seen a few positions I wanted to apply for, I have the necessary skills for them but require a valid security clearance. There is even a posting a manager put on FB and he wanted the to candidate to have a security clearance already.
Am I able to get a security clearance even though my current position doesn't require one (I have a reliability clearance) so when it comes to jobs that ask for it I can say I have one?, or do I have to be selected for a position that requires it and get the paper work form the employer to get the security clearance?
Currently in the process for a several roles in the public service, some of which require Secret and Top Secret clearances. I wanted to know how long it took to grant these clearances. For the purpose of this question, let's assume the employers are high profile departments (PCO, DND, RCMP, etc...)
ABOUT ME: born overseas (friendly country, Canadian ally), raised in Canada, 23 years old, haven't moved much, still in school, held several jobs, most overseas travel is to the US, nowhere crazy, no priors or criminal records (not even a parking ticket), alright credit score, no criminal history in my family.
I have lived overseas for most of the 5 year period being examined for reliability clearance. For others that have been in a similar situation, how long did your clearance take to come through? Were you interviewed? And was anyone denied? I'm a dual citizen and the second country is a five eyes country. I have no criminal record in either country and all of my education and most of my professional experience has been in Canada.
I'm also curious about length of time for secret clearance for people in my situation. I'm aware of the processing times listed online, but I'm looking for anecdotal experiences so i can get a ballpark understanding as it will help immensely with planning the next few months. Thanks in advance.
EDIT: Thanks all for your replies. It's good to know so many of us have been in the same boat.
Dear PS community, I was given the secret security clearance form yesterday and I’m trying to complete it this weekend. In the form, I need to disclose all my last employment experience, which is fine, but i wonder if I need to match it strictly to my resume?
For instance, I have a time period that I was between jobs but did pro Bono consulting services to an organization as a favour (this was in the US). I listed the experience on my resume because it’s relevant to my field. But I was not hired by the organization at that time. Should I still list it on the form or should I just put in “unemployed”?
Another example is that I provided consulting services during the pandemic when I was not employed. I did receive pay for which I claimed income taxes. However, I don’t have a registered firm, a business name, or anything like that. I have this experience listed on my resume, too. Can I disclose this on the form or should I put in “unemployed”?
I searched the sub but didn’t find very similar posts. Thanks in advance for any advise!
Good afternoon redditers,
When I first joined the public service a few years ago, they gave me secret. Then I moved to a job that didn't require it and that second department issued a reliability one that I have had since. Now, another department wants me. The position requires secret. They went to the department that gave me secret to transfer it but they say they don't hold it anymore.... Ideas? Thanks!
I’ve seen a few jobs pop up around my area and they mention Enhanced security checks by the government but I can’t really seem to wrap my head around what that means. My last job we needed a background check and credit check because we might of been at higher risk to steal some items and I understand that but I see how people describe the ESC and it still doesn’t make sense to me. From all I can read is that they will look deeper into my life and everybody says it varies depending the job.
I guess my main questions would be does it really matter unless you have a criminal record? and can they check your mental health record?
I feel like I’m having a brain fart moment lol I just can’t seem to find any actual info on google so I figure maybe someone could dummy it down for me