ThinkPad P series

Hello all

So I'm thinking of getting a ThinkPad, my first. My research lead me to believe that ThinkPads are best for remote work and daily use. (I work in research and data analysis)

I'm thinking of a P Series laptop. Mostly better they are they only ones I saw without integrated graphics.

P16v Intel Gen 2

P14s AMD Gen 4

P16v AMD Mobile Workstation

P16s AMD Gen 2

P16v Intel Gen 1

P1 Intel Gen 6 (not a typo)

P14s Intel Gen 4

P16 Intel Gen 2

P16s Intel Gen 2

I'm LOST. What are the differences?

Also there's a P16v AMD Gen 1 and 16p Gen 4 (not a typo) on sale

Thanks!

Edit: Are the newer gens worth the price increase or should I mainly be worried about specs? Is the 16v or 16s or regular 16 very different from each other? Also, what's up with P1 and 16p?

Hi,

According to Wikipedia:

"P series are the most advanced ThinkPad products offered by Lenovo"

So I was chasing P, as I wanted to buy one with only Ryzen processor. My target: 14", 2021+ model (gen2+), I need workhorse good performing laptop. I would love 15" or 16" but to me latest versions are screwed regarding ergonomy --> touchpad on very left side. Rather than making a bit wider casing, they decided to make keyboard on the edges, so the result is not much space to rest left hand on casing, so I've picked 14".

Then I realized the fact that most of my targeted "P" has RAM soldered. I'm not looking for troubles, soldered CPU is bad enough. I do prefer RAM in slots so I can do cheap eco repairs in case of problems rather than scrapping whole board.

So I was scratching my head why in top P series RAM is soldered like in cheap junk rather than in slots?

So I went on T page:

"The T series is officially the flagship ThinkPad product, offering high-performance computers aimed at businesses and professionals." But found RAM soldered as well.

Okay, so I assume in here P as a top top, while T as a flagship, okay, both RAM soldered.

So I gave up and started to read about budget stuff, L series:

"L series has an added focus on economy and value, they are the entry-level range for enterprise use, and are also used by students." To me it sounds like really budget entry level cheap lower quality laptop, but hold no: surprisingly 2021 "L" model (gen2) with 2 RAM slots, while "higher" T and P same year models has soldered RAM.

Does it means: ignore series as they have no clue what they're doing really regarding marking series logically?

Or I'm just the biggest nerd in here and no one else is paying attention if RAM is soldered on board or in slot?

EDIT:

SORTED! SOUNDS LIKE BRILLIANT COMMUNITY IN HERE!

Thank you for brilliant info!

I just bought L14 gen2 for now (Ryzen gen5 5650U with good single thread performance, socketed RAM), as really needed to upgrade to carry on with my day-to-day work more efficient way, but by majority notes sounds like T14 / P14s is best bet for RAM socketed version with good Ryzen CPU and nice options while keeping good ergonomic thing (centered touchpad), in second hand market currently.

Definitely I'll watch listings/marketplaces and upgrade my L14 when I spot T14 / P14s one in good condition. Then it will be just matter of swapping SSD between, especially I'll run Debian. I don't need to worry now if it will be next week, month or in few months time because for now L14 in here, well, not delivered yet but on the way. Thank you all :-D