DIY. I did a king for 1200 and it beat everything up to 6k I tested by a landslide. 2 years now and still a dream to climb into. I did a 1/2" support foam base, 8" elite edge pocket coil, 2" med latex, 2" soft latex. Zipped into a 12" sleeplikeabear bamboo mattress cover. Throw that on a KD nomad frame and youre at 1500 and have something you couldnt touch for less than prolly 10k from a retailer. Took no time, super easy. Can change layers if/when needed. Can even make both sides different. Answer from Theslash1 on reddit.com
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reddit.com › r/mattress › innerspring only; no gel, no foam?!
r/Mattress on Reddit: Innerspring only; no gel, no foam?!
June 10, 2023 -

looking for a new mattress. Mine is so so so worn, it's springs only. Do they make them anymore or are they just hard to find? i had memory foam and didn't like it so i don't want one of those again.

I am someone who is in bed way more than the avg person so I need something that won't give in and sag too quickly- yes i know that me being in bed more than usual is a big factor. Id like for it to be in store so no online box mattresses.

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reddit.com › r/mattress › any recommendations for an old-school high quality innerspring mattress?
r/Mattress on Reddit: Any recommendations for an old-school high quality innerspring mattress?
July 22, 2020 -

My wife and I bought a Simmons Caitlyn innerspring mattress with a foam topper 5 years ago. At the time, we thought we were buying a high quality mattress at a good price (~$650). We now know how cheap that is, but I digress.

Within 3 years, it sunk dramatically - there is a 2" deep pit at the hip on one side, and the other side is sinking as well. We tried to get a warranty replacement two years ago, but they claimed our slat spacing was too wide and rejected our claim. When I read the fine print, they were technically correct, but as a mechanical engineer I am certain that our slat spacing is adequate - this is just a loophole for their warranty department. At any rate, we are stuck with this mattress.

We're finally ready to upgrade. We're sick of this mattress. But here is where I'm getting a bit lost.

We love the old mattresses that my parents have at their home. Traditional firm innerspring mattresses WITHOUT foam toppers, just a standard pillow top. Mattresses that can be flipped over and rotated, and last 10+ years. But it seems like these aren't common at all anymore.

All we want is something like that - if we need a foam topper, we can get one ourselves rather than have it built-in. It seems like the majority of new mattresses have built-in foam layers, almost guaranteeing they will need to be replaced sooner than later because of sink. We looked at higher-end options like McRoskey's, but if we can get what we're looking for and not spend $5-6k, that would be fantastic.

Does anyone have any recommendations? It seems like the mattress game has more players than ever, and the last thing we want is to accidentally buy another shit mattress that we think is nice for the first two years and then leaves us frustrated and sleepless at the 4-5 year mark.

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reddit.com › r/mattress › do traditional innerspring mattresses not exist for sale online?
Do traditional innerspring mattresses not exist for sale online? : r/Mattress
September 26, 2020 - Not true. I work at a mattress store. If a traditional innerspring has any memory foam in it (usually the pricier models), it’s buried below the top layer so it doesn’t feel like a hybrid. I have sub $800 firm mattresses with no memory foam.
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reddit.com › r/mattressadvisory › any old-fashioned innerspring mattresses without memory, latex comfort layers paddings? the type you used to be able to flip over? do those exist anymore or any mattresses similar? help!
r/MattressAdvisory on Reddit: Any old-fashioned innerspring mattresses without memory, latex comfort layers paddings? The type you used to be able to flip over? Do those exist anymore or any mattresses similar? Help!
September 21, 2022 -

I slept on an old school innerspring mattress for about 15 years with no issues and decided to upgrade mattresses last year, and have had so many problems since then. I am starting to feel really hopeless and helpless that i am ever going to find a mattress where I wont wake up in pains and strains.

I have tried multiple mattresses, beauty rest black, Sealy posture pedic hybrid. Have spent thousands of dollars. Firm, medium, plush, and really believe foam/comfort layers on top are really affecting my back. I am side sleeper and had significant mid back pain since getting a new mattress. I believe these "comfort" layers cause me to sink and dip unevenly, putting a ton of strain in my mid back. When I go to the store and lay on mattresses, the extra firm mattresses feel better on my mid back, but I get pain in my hip and head/neck area.

I have no idea what to do at this point, cause every mattress store just sells the same mattresses, and I am scared to order something online without ever laying on it. I am thinking of getting a membership at Costco, just because they will take returns on mattresses no questions asked because I cant keep losing money at these big box stores that have 1 comfort exchange

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reddit.com › r/mattress › traditional inner spring mattress for lower back pains
r/Mattress on Reddit: Traditional Inner Spring Mattress for Lower Back Pains
May 25, 2018 -

About 3 months ago I bought a Sleep On Latex queen mattress. However, long story short it gives me some pretty bad lower back pains. I tried adding a topper and the lower back pains have not improved much. I am in the process of returning the mattress to Sleep On Latex

I've tested a few mattresses out at some stores and have decided that a traditional inner spring mattress is probably best for me. Comparing them to foam mattresses they should feel the most 'normal' to me. It has what I have been sleeping comfortably on for the last 28+ years before I purchased this latex mattress. I think I need to even avoid the plush or pillowtop inner spring mattresses and go with a traditional medium firm. Then I can add necessary toppers as I feel appropriate.

Any specific brands I should look at that might be good for lower back pain? I am primarily a side sleeper and am about 5'7 185 lbs. So far I tested the Orthopedic Luxury Firm Mattress from the Original Mattress Factory and the Beauty Rest Recharge Ashaway PL from Mattress firm. I think I liked the Orthopedic better. Anyone have any feedback on these 2 mattress or any other suggestions I should try?

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reddit.com › r/mattress › can anyone recommend me a manufacturer/brand/website that makes durable mattresses with traditional bonnell innersprings, high-density latex, and organic natural fibers? no coils. no cheap foams. and no plastic-y materials or fiberglass.
r/Mattress on Reddit: Can anyone recommend me a manufacturer/brand/website that makes durable mattresses with traditional Bonnell Innersprings, high-density latex, and organic natural fibers? No coils. No cheap foams. And no plastic-y materials or fiberglass.
June 11, 2024 -

I've (F24) had chronic back pain for about five years now. I don't want to go too into the details of my diagnosis here, but the basic idea is I suffer from a combination of factors including compressed/herniated lumbar discs, loss of curve in my spine and neck, and high arches in my feet. (I've been trying to correct this with cortisol injections with my pain management doctor and various exercises with multiple physical therapists for almost as long, but it's been hard with my college workload, and nothing has helped long-term, unfortunately.)

I'm aware a new mattress won't magically solve my issues, but I've slept on a really saggy 25 year-old hand-me-down mattress (innerspring with a foam topper bought separately) since childhood and more recently an air mattress since I returned the Sleep Number bed I ordered (wasn't for me) and didn't have my old mattress to go back to. So at this point, anything would be an improvement over what I've slept on in the past and present, and I'm hoping it will at least make SOME difference in my usual pain levels, enough to maybe help me get a restful night's sleep for once and have enough energy to be active again.

Anyway, I originally wanted a hybrid bed, since it seemed like a good compromise between back support for my pain and comfort for my joints (I'm a side AND back sleeper), but I've heard so many bad things about "bed-in-a-box" business models and the cheap materials used in many mattresses these days, so I want something more traditional with sturdy innersprings and high-quality high-density latex and/or a pillow topper with 100% natural materials. And preferably sold and shipped as-is. As I've learned from my spine, anything that can be compressed that badly is probably of worthless quality, lol.

Any advice helps!! If you have a specific manufacturer, brand, or website that sells something like what I'm looking for, I'd love to have that info! Thank you for your time <3

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reddit.com › r/mattress › recommendations for innerspring
r/Mattress on Reddit: Recommendations for innerspring
March 19, 2021 -

I've done loads of research, laid on a bunch of beds and still need advice. Anyone in the average range (I'm 5' 8" and 160 lbs) and really likes they're mattress, let me know what you sleep on.

I feel like I get much better sleep on an innerspring or maybe a hybrid, and I think I like a softer top. I have back pain, and had surgery, but who hasn't now days.

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I’ve had similar experiences and decided the bed in a box hybrids are overall sort of a scam. They are overpriced for the quality and just sub-par. I’ve tried four at this point and they were either too hard, too soft or sagged in the middle (queen sized). And overall didn’t seem nearly as well-made as our old traditional innerspring. My brother has had the Saatva for maybe 3 years now and not very happy with it. he finally went to the brick and mortar recently and ordered a Sealy Posturpedic Exuberant II. I’ll be waiting for his feedback and I’m also going to go to the real live store and expect to buy one from there—perhaps a Sealy Posturpedic. No more mail-order mattresses for me!

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I'm 5'3", 125# and it's been a nightmare trying to find the right mattress. I have osteoarthritis in my back, so pressure points are a thing for me, and this makes most mattresses feel too hard. So, first of all, any decent quality mattress from a reputable manufacturer should have adequate support for average sized people. For me personally, the comfort/feel is where most mattresses fall short.

My first sleep trial was on a 100% latex mattress, green certified, blah, blah, blah...worst sleep of my life. May as well have been sleeping on the floor. I'm now in a sleep trial on the Saatva classic soft, which is also too hard. It's improved some in the month I've had it, but I still wake up in pain. You can have a soft feel to relieve pressure points and still get support, unfortunately, the industry makes this almost impossible to find, because there is no standard consumers can use for guidance. A medium mattress that feels soft to you might feel like a board to me. Feel is subjective, and every manufacturer uses terminology different. I've spoken to reps from several manufacturers, and they have confirmed that sometimes a plush feels firm and a medium feels soft. Unfortunately, the only way for the customer to figure that out is to try the mattress out, which is time consuming, aggravating, and can get expensive if there are return fees/restocking fees/etc.

Since I didn't find what I was looking for from an online retailer, I finally went out to brick and mortar stores and tried some out. I found that I like the feel of a more traditional inner spring pillowtop mattress. From the ones I looked at, my favorite was the Sealy Posturepedic Satisfied II Plush Euro top. I haven't bought it yet, but that's the plan - waiting to see if it goes on sale for President's Day. The other unfortunate reality is that mattresses are not as durable or long lasting as they used to be, so I'm leery dropping a huge pile of cash on any mattress because it will likely only last 7-10 years.

So, my advice is focus on what feels good to you and don't be as worried about support, because as an average sized human, that shouldn't be an issue, since the industry builds mattresses knowing they have to support Americans who've been "super-sized." If you like a softer feel, I'd recommend steering clear of latex or tempurpedic. Those types of mattresses have buoyancy, but are not soft. They're also a pain to move because they're super heavy.

Good luck!

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reddit.com › r/mattress › do they just no longer make innerspring coil mattresses without sticking memory foam in there?
r/Mattress on Reddit: Do they just no longer make innerspring coil mattresses without sticking memory foam in there?
April 17, 2024 -

I'm looking for a bed so soft it literally cries at the thought of supporting my weight all night. I have horrible joint pain and any kind of pressure keeps me up nights and I wake up barely mobile. So I'm seeking a soft (plush, whatever) mattress, innerspring coils (although they all seem to use the shitty thin wire now which collapses so easily), with a pillow top, that DOESN'T HAVE MEMORY FOAM ON IT. I literally go into back spasms the second I lie down on a memory foam mattress. I don't want a "hybrid." I just want the damn springs and stuffing.

I'd also like for this to not cost 1,200 bucks for a twin. But I'll settle for knowing such a mattress even exists anymore.

Please don't try to tell me what I really need is a firm mattress. I tried that. I've spent years in pain trying to sleep. I know what I need. It just doesn't seem to exist anywhere.

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reddit.com › r/mattress › innerspring luxury brand recommendations? no budget.
r/Mattress on Reddit: Innerspring Luxury Brand recommendations? No budget.
September 11, 2025 -

I’m in the market for an innerspring mattress that has a soft to medium feel but it seems like everyone is pushing those foam mattresses in a box. I’ve already tried a few and even (regretfully) purchased one, and it’s given me nothing but shoulder pain and arm numbness.

I’m want some direction to go in… could someone throw out some brand names? And even more, if you have any experience with any particular luxury brand(s), could you share your thoughts on it?

Thanks

EDIT: Thanks, everybody! Even though I don’t think I’ll be spending 400k on a mattress, you all have definitely given me a direction to go in and some options to consider.

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reddit.com › r/mattress › will an innerspring mattress really feel cooler than memory foam, even in a warm room?
r/Mattress on Reddit: Will an innerspring mattress really feel cooler than memory foam, even in a warm room?
February 24, 2025 -

Hi all, appreciate any help or advice. I have a memory foam mattress that’s comfy but like all memory foam probably sleeps warm.

I’m thinking of buying a Naturpedic with no foam or latex since they are 22% off now. My hope is that it sleeps cooler— especially in these warm months. My apartment building won’t put on the AC for several more weeks, and these nights are rough.

Do most people actually notice a difference between memory foam and a pure innerspring mattress? I know theoretically I should feel a difference, but I just worry that it’s different in practice.

The naturpedic mattress is returnable but I really need to get this right. I’m in a studio apartment in a city, and there’s no room to keep the old mattress around while I try the new one.

Any words of wisdom to help me pull the trigger are appreciated!!

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reddit.com › r/mattress › any recommendations on a durable, traditional spring mattress
Any recommendations on a durable, traditional spring mattress : r/Mattress
May 14, 2018 - The spring quality of sealy is high but only the really high end mattress have foam that will hold up. Stearns and foster as well as beautrest black are easy to recommend traditional spring beds. ... I tried this too, but the problem was I couldn’t find a cheap innerspring mattress that didn’t ...
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reddit.com › r/mattress › best innerspring mattress?
r/Mattress on Reddit: Best Innerspring Mattress?
June 16, 2022 -

Hi everyone, my wife and I are currently mattress shopping and it’s been very overwhelming. We’ve been to Mattress Firm to lay on a few and what we both seem to prefer is an old school innerspring mattress. I just don’t like the feeling of sinking into a Tempur-Pedic and she feels too hot. We found the Kingsdown Chardonnay Firm to be comfortable BUT in reading the reviews there are ton of them saying the mattress starts to sag in under a year. Are there any decent inner springs being made today that we should look at? When I travel I enjoy the Westin Heavenly bed but so have no idea if that sags eventually as well. Beauty Rest had a nice mattress at the store called The BeautyRest Black but it was almost 5k 😳 😱. At this point we’re stumped, any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

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reddit.com › r/mattress › where can i find old school mattresses? the kind that are springs w/padding on top (not foam).
r/Mattress on Reddit: Where can I find old school mattresses? The kind that are springs w/padding on top (not foam).
February 21, 2023 -

After having gone thru a couple of these "hybrid" mattresses, I keep finding myself wanting the feel of the old school mattresses. I believe they are just giant springs with padding on top and bottom as they are meant to be flipped. Not that I enjoy flipping mattresses, but the feel of the old school, or traditional mattress is what I want. All I can find are these foam or hybrid mattresses that have individual pocketed spring coils and layers of foam on top. After trying a couple of them in my home, I find myself sleeping on my old mattress as I cannot stay sleeping through the night on the foam or hybrid ones.

The question is, where to find the old school spring mattresses? My old one is 15+ years old and still feels great. The only reason I am looking for a new one is we need a bigger bed. I just want a spring mattress with padding, not memory foam. Thoughts? Suggestions?

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reddit.com › r/mattress › quality innerspring mattresses?
r/Mattress on Reddit: Quality innerspring mattresses?
November 30, 2019 -

Hey all! I am looking for a new mattress. Previously I had an old innerspring, I would say it was probably medium firm, and i also had a memory foam topper on it (was probably about 2-3 inches or so). Unfortunately when I had these I didn’t pay attention to them, but the mattress was so comfy even without the topper. My current mattress is memory foam, only about 3 years old and is not holding up well, as long as giving me pain in my shoulders, neck, hips and back.

I am looking for something to replace my mattress with. I would preferably like something that will hold up longer term, as I had my old mattress through my childhood and it never seemed to show it’s age (besides wear and tear on the cover.) I don’t have a set budget right now, and am willing to wait and save up a bit more for something super comfy. I’d also prefer if it’s something available to try in stores somewhere as I am afraid that I won’t like a mattress blind purchased online and have a hassle returning it. I am 5’4”, 110lbs and sleep on my stomach but lay on my sides often to read my e books. I think I’ve preferred medium firm mattresses that I’ve tried, and I do plan on getting a topper to help extend the life of the mattress. I am looking for a full or queen size and am open to any suggestions!

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reddit.com › r/mattress › does anyone have an innerspring / pocket coil / spring hybrid mattress that's actually been good for several years?
r/Mattress on Reddit: Does anyone have an innerspring / pocket coil / spring hybrid mattress that's actually been good for several years?
January 2, 2024 -

I'm trying to buy a new mattress arter my Simmons Beautyrest developed some major depressions after only about 2 years (and I only weigh 125 pounds!). I cut it open hoping I could just replace the comfort layer(s) but to my dismay, the coils themselves are mushed down in those areas. So it's time to buy another, already.

I'm looking for something spring-based. It seems that latex has the ability to be the most long lasting but I don't like the feel of latex.

So does anyone have a mattress that's been good for several years so far? Every single mattress and brand on here, even if well-reviewed elsewhere, still seems to have tons of people complaining about their mattress developed depressions or started sinking in very little time.

TLDR: I'm looking for info on which brands and even specific mattresses are LONG LASTING.

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Sadly, most mattresses these days have some type of foam in them, which means the top comfort layers will wear down noticeably around the 3-5 year mark. Only way to get around this issue is to either buy a customizable bed (like Savvy Rest, Naturepedic EOS or Spindle, as popular examples) where you can replace layers as they wear out, or buy a traditional coil bed that has no foam in it at all (like brands like Vipsprings or Savoir). The downside of the traditional coil beds is that they're never as 'plush' as beds with foam, but honestly I'd just use a topper if that's the case because at least then, when it inevitably wears down in 3-5 years like all foam soft layers do, you can replace it without buying a new bed. For a truly long-lasting bed you'd want one with coils + wool/cotton/horsehair/flax (natural materials only) and maybe some microcoils for a bit more plushness. If it has any latex or foam of any type in it, it won't be as long-lasting as you'd like it to be, sadly :( Prepare to pay an arm-and-a-leg for this type of bed, though: most beds that solidly-built with no foam in them will run you at least $4k for a Queen.
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Mfrm employee here! I've got a beautyrest black hybrid I've had for several years still going strong The Alcove was my master bedroom for about 2-3 years before I gave it to my oldest because I won a free bed from work. So I got the Nadia (beautyrest all foam). My oldest still sleeps on it, and she's had it for.. 4-5 years? She weights more than you do. It's held up great.
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reddit.com › r/mattress › is a hybrid mattress just an inner spring mattress with a memory foam layer on top? can you make a hybrid mattress by just putting a foam topper on top of a spring mattress?
r/Mattress on Reddit: Is a hybrid mattress just an inner spring mattress with a memory foam layer on top? Can you make a hybrid mattress by just putting a foam topper on top of a spring mattress?
August 6, 2022 -

Here's the deal, I tried some hybrid mattress in a store that I liked but it was crazy expensive. My thought was, I already own like a 4" thick memory foam mattress topper - is there any benefit of buying a new hybrid mattress over just slapping my old memory foam topper on top of a generic firm inner spring mattress?

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I agree you can do it. Let me comment on a couple of things. Typically a hybrid mattress will have inner springs, a transition layer and memory foam. The transition layer is slightly firmer than the memory foam to prevent a person from feeling the springs. This is because memory foam is a soft comfort material with almost no support. If your buying a complete bed then there will very likely be some sort of transition layer. If your putting a 4” topper on the mattress make sure you get a mattress on the firmer end to avoid completely sinking in and getting no support. Typically the comfort layers closest to your body are what get damaged first in a mattress. This means that your topper is likely the thing that will sink and cause dips. If your topper is still good just keep this in mind for later. You can likely replace it and get more life out of the bed. In terms of inner springs, pocket coils are typically thought some of the best. These are coils encased in material which allow the springs to act independently. Make sure you have a decent coil count and you might consider other factors like wire gauge, which impact firmness. Last thing, you could build your own mattress. Buy base foam, the springs, a transition layer, add the memory foam, and encase it all in a cover. See Leviathan’s post here for details: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mattress/comments/otdqms/diy_mattresses_an_introductory_guide/
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The "hybrid" mattress is essentially what you've said, but companies that produce hybrid mattresses create zones for compensating body shapes and use special materials to dissipate heat. You won't get the benefits of the "science" behind these design concepts by doing it yourself. It's the cost of the design and manufacturing that you end up paying for. Consumer Reports has some good content on the type of mattresses and the testing they do to rate them. In some cases the manufacturers "science" pays off in better comfort and spine alignment. In an effort to lower costs manufacturers have figured out how to store and ship large hybrid mattresses in a box. This minimizes warehousing and shipping costs. My opinion is these "fit in a box hybrid mattresses" need to compromise on comfort compared to traditional mattress manufacturers but lower costs for the consumer. A high end hybrid mattress like BeautyRest can run close to 10K all in. The newer "fit in box" mattresses like Casper can still run several thousands of dollars but are less expensive than the tradition premium brands. There are always less expensive options by traditional mattress companies and non-spring mattresses by the "in a box" companies. Shopping for mattresses is no easy task these days in my opinion. You could probably throw a topper on your mattress and be plenty happy in truth.