If someone has an actual business, $30 per month for a CMS site plan shouldn't even be an expense worth talking about. The problem I will say though, is when you exceed the limits of that plan and have to have the conversation about "EnTerPriSE".. at that point the price gets outrageous. More on reddit.com

2k-50k depending on various factors such as page count, if I’m writing the content / blog posts, how much content, how much SEO optimization needs to go into said content, paid SEO and other tools needed for the project, things like creating custom icons, custom section dividers, custom components, how much custom code needs to be added and what language, api integration, aftercare, team training on how to use the site, edit content or use the integrated tools like heat maps and analytics, and what the specific project timeline and requirements are. There’s a lot more that goes into pricing but these are examples of the main things that I factor in. I also almost exclusively provide full service Branding/Logos, Webflow Website, SEO, Content Creation, Marketing & Aftercare Packages that include everything a company would need to go from an idea, to a fully fledged brand with a unique identity, fully functional and content rich website and a fleshed out digital footprint / marketing campaign. It saves the client more money and headaches because they don’t have to hire multiple different agency’s or freelancers for each design / development aspect, keeps everything in-house which eliminates delays because of lag in communication / response times and I offer discounts for purchasing these All-in-One packages or discounts for purchases that bundle even just a couple of services together. I personally have some clients that I always give discounts to, regulars mostly or friends and family. I always give a first time customer discount of 10%-20% and I give other people or clients a 5%-10% referral bonus if the total project cost for every client they refer to me. But I deliver a premium, unique and well made product with some built in or standard features for each and every project, such as a Notion Client Project Hub and Portal where all project contracts, invoices, client questionnaire’s, tasks/goals, project timeline/stages, all site content, mood boards, logos, etc.. I also provide Style guides for Branding projects, multiple logo concepts that increase based on which package they buy, clothing and other 3D or Photoshop mock-ups for logos, as well as multiple Figma Designs for websites so I can test and show different page concepts to the client, to give them and their team a nice range of options to choose from and then I edit them from there on out based on what they like and don’t like from each concept. (I actually have the Notion Client Project Hub and Portal Template for anybody that wants it. It’s another 2-4+ hours in project time to completely set it up with all of the client / project info, goals and other content. But it makes it soooo much more organized and easy for the client to see what’s being done at every stage of the project. It’s a complete hub for all of your client projects, not individual files for each project that you have to keep duplicating. Just enter each project into the and you give the client access to their specific project folder via sharing to their email. PM or comment if you are interested!) I also bill in multiple ways. Mostly by flat project fee with variables for changes. But I also allow monthly retainers or subscriptions, and a mix of the two at the same time for some clients depending on their requirements. Sometimes I price based on value of the work / site which is more of a flat rate but usually more expensive. This is newer for me, but what can I say, I know I the value of the work that I provide. And I’m tired of underselling that value. I actually learned this method from Chris Doa on @ The Futur on YouTube. If you guys want to connect & network or want more tips, e-guides, free design resources and templates, you can follow me on Instagram @nitro_foundry_designs and @ Nitro Foundry Designs on everything. (Behance, Twitter (I refuse to call it X, I don’t care lol.), Dribbble, Facebook, Etc.. I’m dropping a bunch of content this month that starts off with a multiparty e-guide for building an unique and professional website and will include all of things that I mentioned above. It’s mostly my work at the moment but part 1 of the e-guide and the Notion Client Project Hub drops on Monday. But I’ll message it to anybody that wants it now. I hope some of this helped! If you have any other questions I’m here for anybody that needs it, anytime! Cheers guys 🥂 More on reddit.com

Hey Juma, I'm also Kenyan so here's the 3rd world game plan. First of all, everyones right. Use webflow for free and get your client to pay for your workspace. Also, Wordpress would be better for Kenyan clients but in case you want to stick to Webflow, here're a few tricks. Most employers and clients will want to see 3-4 examples so get 3 gmail accounts and make 3 webflow accounts. Each free account can allow up to two sites each so that's 6 sites at your disposal. Start learning on Webflow University with the free sites and get the fundamentals down. When you are feeling ready to start working on projects, make projects on the other accounts and leave the main one to hold your portfolio and a future client project. You'll realize that the free sites cannot go beyond 2 pages (eg you get just home and about unless you buy a plan) but you can get around this by cloning templates from an Agency called Finsweet that has around 8-9 pages. This may or may not make sense right now but it will come handy later. You can do some pretty cool work with just native webflow and no custom code on the free plan, I made this site on the free plan with the strategy above. 2.5 Make your portfolio website and link all those sites across your different accounts. Nobody can tell/cares 3. At some point, since Webflow cannot do everything, you will need to supplement with some custom code, so while you learn webflow I'd reccomend learning basic html, css and JS as well. I personally haven't heard python mentioned in the Webflow environment . I reccomend The Odin Project as it is what I currently use. In order to write code in Webflow you'll have to pay for a plan. Practice your custom code outside Webflow before you can pay for your webflow account/when looking for clients. 4. When you get your first client, depending on what you charge (I wouldn't go below Ksh 25k), use that money to pay for the workspace plan with 10 sites on your main webflow account (remember you had 3) for a month. *Build the client website first* and then pay for the workspace plan to export the site and host it somewhere cheaper. Most Kenyans wont be ok hosting on Webflow. Now that you have your workspace, use those 30 days to transfer all the projects from your other accounts into your paid account and add all the custom code you have been learning and want to show off, if any. Transfer all those sites back to your other accounts before your subscription is over as only two sites will be accessible after. 6. Rinse and repeat until you get a steady stream of clients to pay for your expensive webflow habit. Again, if you just want to just work with Kenyan clients I'd probably go for wordpress. It's the standard. Webflow would be more suitable if you wanted to work with international clients and agencies. Webflow will be more "work" and you have to game the system a few times in the beginning. Whatever you do, don't stagnate during your learning phase because you can't afford a plan at whatever time. Just find other things to do or a workaround and implement it when you can pay. More on reddit.com

The biggest problem with Webflow is the disconnect on who’s paying. The person that understands all the benefits and reaps many of those benefits is the designer, not the client. I think the price becomes hard to justify for a lot of clients and it may make more sense to get an account (workspace) plan for designers with multiple clients. More on reddit.com