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A handful of years ago, Intel was the undisputed king in designing CPU architecture. They also tried their hand at vertical integration, which is unusual for modern computer parts, by being both the designers and manufacturers of their product. Foundry’s, where these parts are made, are very expensive to run and maintain. Interestingly, they require clean rooms where the smallest amount of dust can lead to errors in the creation of wafers. For a long time, This investment was strategic and lead to some dominance that others could not compete with their vertical integration, but in recent years they have been caught holding the bag for out of date foundries that do not have the right machinery or scale to keep up with modern standards. Other similar companies (Nvidia, AMD, Google, apple etc) that design their own chips have been able to catch up BECUASE they don’t manufacture thier own chips. Instead they outsource manufacturing to other companies (mainly Samsung and TSMC) that have been able to invest in cutting edge technology to create the best chips, even though they need not necessarily invest in designing the chips themselves. In more recent and tangible terms, the two most recent intel chip releases did not provide any meaningful performance improvement and in many ways even have worse performance. AMD provides better performance for value as of today and companies that previously had tight relations with Intel due to their dominance have been making their own chips (ex: Apple and Microsoft). Despite this, Intel surprised everyone recently by releasing some GPUs that have solid value propositions compared to Nvidia (who has been gouging their customers more and more every new generation) or AMD (who honestly struggled to keep up with Nvidia). I’ll add one last layer of nuance by saying there is a crowd of people who are die hard Intel fans. These are people who turn off their brains and side with intel as the better choice for a computer. The naunce is: for a long time THEY WERE RIGHT. there was a period where you could turn your brain off, find the intel option in your budget, and it would be the best choice. When these conversations go you’ll occasionally run into someone who is still breaking that mental habit. Answer from AlphaZanic on reddit.com

reddit.com › r/outoftheloop › what's going on with intel?

r/OutOfTheLoop on Reddit: What's going on with Intel?

January 6, 2025 -

So I've heard about Intel's fall from grace

- AMD being on literally every system nowadays (key example- newer gaming laptops)

- Intel chip failures

- Intel stock price nuking (and people talking about how the government needs to save it because it's too big to fail)

I can only tell from a surface/user level that things aren't going too hot, but I don't really understand how an industry standard brand name went from all-time high ubiquity into such a miserable state of existence within a few short years?

Or was I missing something, and has the decline been happening for a longer period of time since the last decade?

Either way, I am out of the loop and would like some redpilling on what actually is or has been destroying Intel as we speak?

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Answer: A handful of years ago, Intel was the undisputed king in designing CPU architecture. They also tried their hand at vertical integration, which is unusual for modern computer parts, by being both the designers and manufacturers of their product. Foundry’s, where these parts are made, are very expensive to run and maintain. Interestingly, they require clean rooms where the smallest amount of dust can lead to errors in the creation of wafers. For a long time, This investment was strategic and lead to some dominance that others could not compete with their vertical integration, but in recent years they have been caught holding the bag for out of date foundries that do not have the right machinery or scale to keep up with modern standards. Other similar companies (Nvidia, AMD, Google, apple etc) that design their own chips have been able to catch up BECUASE they don’t manufacture thier own chips. Instead they outsource manufacturing to other companies (mainly Samsung and TSMC) that have been able to invest in cutting edge technology to create the best chips, even though they need not necessarily invest in designing the chips themselves. In more recent and tangible terms, the two most recent intel chip releases did not provide any meaningful performance improvement and in many ways even have worse performance. AMD provides better performance for value as of today and companies that previously had tight relations with Intel due to their dominance have been making their own chips (ex: Apple and Microsoft). Despite this, Intel surprised everyone recently by releasing some GPUs that have solid value propositions compared to Nvidia (who has been gouging their customers more and more every new generation) or AMD (who honestly struggled to keep up with Nvidia). I’ll add one last layer of nuance by saying there is a crowd of people who are die hard Intel fans. These are people who turn off their brains and side with intel as the better choice for a computer. The naunce is: for a long time THEY WERE RIGHT. there was a period where you could turn your brain off, find the intel option in your budget, and it would be the best choice. When these conversations go you’ll occasionally run into someone who is still breaking that mental habit.

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Answer: Intel is a huge, complicated company, which creates computing products. It is arguably the only company in the world that makes the same range of products in such a heavily vertically integrated way. They have had a range of different failures and successes recently, some of which are serious, others overblown, some speculative. From this some analysts have believed it's in a death spiral, despite being given one of the largest US government aid packages in recent history in the chips act. In the recent news, these issues are as follows: AMD x3d parts outshining Intels desktop offereing for PC x86 space. AMD big server CPUs taking market share from intel in x86 server space. Intel's new GPU division struggling with drivers in its alchemist lineup (previous generation). Intel's 8nm process being expensive. Doubts over future 20A and 18A manufacturing processes. Failure/instability in Raptor lake desktop products. Unexpectedly modest performance from their new Arrow lake products. Sale of some of their historic divisions. Speculation over the company being broken up. Worries over the ousting of their highly technical CEO Pat Gelsinger. Nvidia leading in the AI computing space, largely shaping the narrative there. I personally believe that despite the issues, it is nevertheless the case that Intel is a massive and successful company which does largely make useful products. I personally believe that they are being targeted with negative press as it would be very much in the interests of several major players to buy intel's fabrication division and IP, and liquidate/layoff the rest (resulting in even more entrenched monopolies in the tech sector). For the layman, it is also popular to take some satisfaction from their issues, as they historically were quite anti-competitive and lazy with their business practices when their core products were untouchable (which to be fair to them is only being shed slowly). These same people don't seem to understand that there is no good reason to give negative press to a company out of spite - we always want free market companies to compete with each other, that's how consumers get better prices and products. Coming from someone who both currently and previously owned many Intel, AMD, Nvidia and ARM products.

reddit.com › r/buildapc › why is intel so bad now?

r/buildapc on Reddit: Why is intel so bad now?

June 17, 2025 -

I was invested in pc building a couple years back and back then intel was the best, but now everyone is trashing on intel. How did this happen? Please explain.

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They fell off hard after the 12th gen, too many reasons to list, watch a YouTube video. It's not just the fact they are "bad" now, its because amd is so good.

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Lazyness, short term earnings prioritizing in order for execs to get bonuses and get out. I also heard they had some kind of issue with their new manufacturing processes but I'm not sure about that one.

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reddit.com › r/hardware › how once-iconic intel fell into a 20-year decline

r/hardware on Reddit: How once-iconic Intel fell into a 20-year decline

August 10, 2025 - Soon after those you could see new intel releases were extremely minor improvements or no improvements at all, year after year, at some point you knew something was wrong, they just got too greedy and tried to milk their position to the very end which they did. ... They fell because of corporate greed! They thought that innovation simply happens, you don't need to invest in it.

reddit.com › r/pcmasterrace › what happened to intel?

r/pcmasterrace on Reddit: What Happened To Intel?

November 1, 2024 -

I seen the news, $13bil loss in Q3, oxidizing CPUs, underperformed products vs competitors, now I see rumors that Apple or Samsung are keen to buy them out or at least merge with them.

What the hell happened? Largest chip maker right up to 2019, now they're falling apart and struggling to stay relevant. How does a major company do this?

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Even the biggest corp can crash pretty hard pretty fast. off course i hope for them to get better because you really don't want only 1 that control all the market or most of it. Not good for innonvations

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Intel has had major problems well before these issues that are just the nail in the coffin, from their confusing naming scheme that has costed them an insane amount of sales, to the fact that they lost so many brand deals (which mostly went to qualcomm and amd) and then they started spending everything to stay relevant despite their poor sales. The failed gpu project, just like their ssds and rams surely didnt help either. As a last resort they blamed everything on their buisness partners (mobo manufacturers mostly) who obviously turned on them and showed them the finger. One bad CEO is enough to fuck a massive corporation.

reddit.com › r/outoftheloop › what is going on with intel and why are they on the verge of bankruptcy all of a sudden?

r/OutOfTheLoop on Reddit: What is going on with Intel and why are they on the verge of bankruptcy all of a sudden?

November 5, 2024 -

As far as I knew they were the top CPU maker and at least in gaming and server market they were unrivalled. How did they get to the point where there are rumours of bankruptcy?

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/26/intel-dominated-us-chip-industry-now-struggling-to-stay-relevant.html

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Answer: Intel spent billions on stock buy backs instead of reinvesting and innovating.

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Answer: the article you linked is pretty comprehensive - Intel was slow to see the growth opportunities offered by the market. They missed out on the mobile chip boom, then the AI chip boom. From a manufacturing perspective, Intel was behind TSMC in using EUV photolithography .

reddit.com › r/buildapc › did intel really lose?

r/buildapc on Reddit: Did Intel really lose?

August 10, 2025 -

The last time I built a home PC was with the newly minted Intel 12th GEN 12600k during the insane pandemic days. Which was apparently an amazing breakthrough for the CPU. It was a good time for productivity (adobe) and my games.

Sticking with my same budget as before, I recently upgraded, and without with replacing my mobo, I maxed out to a 14600KF for cheap. I am happy, my game don’t crash and I never been one to chance FPS or overclock. And productivity is the biggest surprise of all. A render that took 2 hours now takes under 10min.

I also got a work laptop with an ultra 7 268V. And it’s blows away anything I used in the past for office and general work crap.

It’s crazy to me that every single build I see is with team red now. What am I missing here? Is AMD truly that much better in real world proformance:price ratio?

I guess I my real question is, was it worth me spending a couple hundred dollars on my new 14th gen chip versus getting a new mobo and switching to team red chip?

For context, I’ll admit to having some brand loyalty to team blue, and I have actually only built six computer rigs in the last 20 years. So I guess I’ll admit to my view being skewed. I tend to hold on and upgrade only when necessary.

486 (1990) ➔ Pentium 1 (1995) ➔ Pentium 4 (2000) ➔ Mac Pro (2006) ➔ Xeon E3-1230 (2012) ➔ 12600K / 14600KF

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The only one losing is consumers if Intel don’t step up their game.

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Considering you were on LGA1700 already, it makes sense that you upgraded to a higher end LGA1700 CPU. But nowadays, the Core Ultra 200 series is just so much worse at gaming than even the 14th gen Intel parts that it makes no sense to go Intel. AMD chips are getting cheaper and cheaper and the performance gap at the top of the stack is incredible.

reddit.com › r/oregon › how did intel get so screwed up?

r/oregon on Reddit: How did Intel get so screwed up?

July 25, 2025 -

I do not work in tech and I’m hoping someone can explain this to me; I’m genuinely curious. My understanding is that the semiconductor industry is booming, but Intel is behind the curve and is now laying off workers. How did a company that was previously very successful get to where it’s at today?

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They stopped innovating. They got complacent in CPU dominance, let Nvidia acquire the GPU market, stoodby while AMD innovated on multicore CPUs and surpassed Intel while undercutting prices, let ARM architecture acquire the mobile market without their own investment in the tech, let AMD acquire the rest of the GPU marketshare, and when they realized all this - they placed their bets in a GPUs that haven't acquired any market share. A classic case of complacency in market dominance and a lack of investment in innovation. They somehow didn't lobby and gobble the innovators away into functional monopoly..unlike most other tech in the US.

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The super short of it is that Intel was really, really good at building x86 processors for PCs and that market shrank. Now for the long. x86 is a processer design that was used pretty much in all desktop PCs and laptops. Intel had the most powerful and best bang for your buck x86 processers. Intel leveraged that to build very, very good relations with the companies that built laptops and PCs, so their processors ended up in all of those. Intel also owns their own chip fabrication, so they had lower costs there because their competitors often had third parties manufacture their chips for them. This made Intel market dominant and they sort of rested on their laurels that x86 was going to be there forever. Then, along came mobile devices, which used ARM processors. ARM worked better for mobile because it was more of an all in one chip that was not as power hungry as x86, but it also wasn't as powerful. Intel did not get into ARM chip design or manufacturing because it didn't fit their vertical market integration model. They ceded a chunk of processor market share here, but that was okay because the x86 PC market was still booming. Next, the rate at which processors were improving started to slow down as engineers started running into physics limits with how small they could make transistors. This meant that Intel was not improving as fast as they once were, which allowed AMD to catch up in processor performance despite not owning their own chip fabs. Eventually AMD was able to match and in some areas surpass Intel's x86 processor performance, which drastically eroded Intel's market share. Intel also had a chip generation release with a flaw that could cause the processors from that generation to break down and fail much quicker than expected (within a year). The next big punch that Intel took is those weak ARM processors that were only good for mobile kept improving and getting more powerful without losing their energy efficiency. Apple took note of this and seized the opportunity to design their own ARM processors for their laptops and stop using Intel's processors. This caused a huge loss of market share for Intel, Apple laptops not using Intel processors to have much longer battery life than their components, and apprehension that many more more powerful computer systems are going to switch away from x64 to ARM over time, and Intel is only good at making x86 chips. At the same time as Apple's switch from x86 to ARM, the crypto and AI booms started happening. AI and crypto don't use the same type of processor as PCs and instead uses graphics cards (GPUs). Intel did not make graphics cards pre-AI and crypto, but Nvidia and AMD did. Intel let this market slide because GPUs were sort of niche and the high profit ones only needed for gaming, CAD, and artists. Suddenly, that changed, and everybody and their mother wanted GPUs. AMD and mostly Nvidia could not manufacture them fast enough and Nvidia quickly exploded because they were the best at manufacturing high performance GPUs. Intel is trying to get into the GPU market, but because of their vertical integration model, it has not been going well compared to the companies with decades of experience in the space. Now, Intel suddenly finds itself with a hand full of x86 cards when the market wants ARM and GPUs. The same specialization and vertical integration that put Intel at the top of the semiconductor world now has them floundering because they didn't diversify into other segments of the semiconductor market and missed the boat on every single market trend of the last 15 years, while the other big players not only performed well in those areas but, in AMD's case, actually improved in Intel's core market enough to start taking a ton of market share back. This is missing a lot of small things that added to this snowball like Intel having some manufacturing issues that other companies that focus only on fabrication avoided, but it's the gist of what happened to my understanding.

reddit.com › r/buildapc › what happened to intel these days?

r/buildapc on Reddit: What happened to intel these days?

July 18, 2024 -

I've seen so many people hating on intel CPUs lately in favour of the AM5 chips such as the 7800x3d. My question: why are chips that have historically been popular such as the i7-13700kf or the newer i5-14600kf so hated in this sub?

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Hates the wrong word. Intel just doesn't make sense to buy right now for gaming 7000 series offer the same gaming performance as 13th/14th gen, but at half the power draw and on a platform with future upgrades Specifically, the 13700K/13900K & 14th gen equivalent are running into stability issues due to intel pushing the clocks and power too far

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Intel not properly addressing the instability of the 13th and 14th gen i9 processors are mostly to blame. Essentially Intel was shifting the blame to mobo manufacturers and overclocking as the cause but there also has been reports of the issue happening in even in the stock settings as prescribed by intel. Although yes the i5 and i7 processors are not affected by this as far as we know many people are still upset on how they handled the situation. Another reason is because the 7800x3D is the one that is regularly topping the gaming CPU performance benchmarks. Sure the 14600k and the 13700k can be better value for money and their performance isn't bad or that far off. Many gamers just see that AMD is in the top of the charts and would rather stick with the AM5 platform in hopes to upgrading into the top AM5 processor in the future.

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reddit.com › r/computadores › what happened to intel? i barely see anyone buying their processors anymore, only amd.

r/computadores on Reddit: What happened to Intel? I barely see anyone buying their processors anymore, only AMD.

April 18, 2025 -

It's crazy. For every 10 people who show off their setup, 8 use AMD.

In Facebook groups, forums, YouTube videos, etc., the vast majority of people show they use systems with AMD CPUs. This scenario is the result of a growing wave that started in 2017 with the launch of the Zen architecture. And, from 2021 onwards, it only increased.

I don't even know what Intel's latest release is. It's the Core Ultra, if I'm not mistaken. AMD, I know it's the Ryzen 9000 series.

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In short, Intel stopped being competitive because the direction AMD pointed to with the Ryzen launch is now being reaped. Processors that are efficient [less energy] and deliver a lot of processing power. Today Intel couldn't and still can't deliver something similar, but it's still the giant it always was with many resources, it just didn't get the CPU right.

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A mix of chronic problems in recent generations, constant chipset changes (you buy an Intel lga 1700 and a year later they've already moved on to another), performance often beaten by Ryzen in the same category, and mainly pricing. A processor with so many problems is priced the same as or more than AMD's. But they still sell a lot to OEMs, laptops, and so on.

reddit.com › r/intel › collapse: intel is falling apart

r/intel on Reddit: COLLAPSE: Intel is Falling Apart

August 11, 2025 - The Radeons could never take the crown back from nvidia, but Zen was able to prop them up to what they are today. So hopefully intel can do a similar turnaround. ... Yeah, that's what everyone is worried about happening with Intel, who is already having their last few generations of designs via TSMC and apparently continuing that trend.

reddit.com › r/technology › the shocking rise and fall of intel

r/technology on Reddit: The shocking rise and fall of Intel

August 18, 2025 - Intel is classic case of having a monopoly and sitting on your laurels. The world was at their feet and they missed out on mobile AND GPUs. That was the death knell. ... And now the Trump Administration is going to take a stake in it and run it just like a casino!!! ... It's not really shocking when it's deliberate. ... This is what happens when you cry “national security blah blah blah” every time a foreign competitor enters your market.

reddit.com › r/hardware › what happened to intel?

r/hardware on Reddit: What happened to Intel?

December 3, 2024 - Exactly, no focus. They keep drowning in keeping the fabs. Intel should have decided to become a fabless operation long ago. I'm 2018 at the latest. ... Well what happened to it?

reddit.com › r/intel › how innovation died at intel: america's only leading-edge chip manufacturer faces an uncertain future and lawsuits

r/intel on Reddit: How innovation died at Intel: America's only leading-edge chip manufacturer faces an uncertain future and lawsuits

December 21, 2024 -

Decent recap on intel's history and opinions on their future

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Just because you are an economist does not mean you know technology. You can understand the patterns without understanding what is making them.

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Not sure why people are fighting here. But i myself have a strong positive outlook for the company (stock). I just shared this article as I thought it was a decent read, I'm a stock owner myself and have positive outlook for 2025. I think it's healthy to read what the "opposite/negative" views are about the stock, to sanity check my own ideas/thoughts/views. I myself believe that the whole chipmaking business (foundry) is of great geopolitical importance for the US, and I believe the government has keen interest in ensuring they have fully US owned foundry producing top tier chips.

reddit.com › r/buildapc › is amd the new standard? what happened to intel?

r/buildapc on Reddit: Is AMD the new standard? What happened to Intel?

January 16, 2026 -

Had a discussion with my son (12). He is now building his own PC and collecting all the parts for it. I have been out of this for many years.

In my time, the default choice would be Intel CPU and NVIDIA for GPU.

Apparently, that is not the case anymore, at least according to my son. For CPU AMD is now the first choice and for GPU AMD as well. For esthetic reasons my sone wants GIGABYTE.

What are your views? Is AMD indeed the current first choice?

https://youtube.com/shorts/OGMsXYfytwY?si=Jszk_V076swMFiyw

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Yes it is, I also switched to AMD after lifetime of Intel. AMD is cheaper, has better performance and supports new CPUs on existing motherboards for several generations, intel does not. GPUs are also much better in terms of bang for the buck. Next I am switching to AMD for GPU as well.

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For GPU, AMD is usually the value choice, and nVidia the 'performance' choice but also tends to be more expensive in most countries. So in case of your son, he's probably trying to save some $ so he's going with AMD GPU. For CPUs... Intel blew up with 13th/14th gen CPU degradation issue, and their new Core Ultra CPUs aren't that much better vs. last gen stuff in gaming. AMD's X3D CPU is the king of gaming CPU, and your son could upgrade to it anytime, while if he bought Intel now, he'd be screwed as Intel's next-gen CPU that could potentially take on the X3D CPU will be on yet another whole new socket.

reddit.com › r/stocks › intel finally showing signs of a real turnaround, or are we getting baited again

r/stocks on Reddit: Intel finally showing signs of a real turnaround, or are we getting baited again

October 24, 2025 -

Intel came in stronger than I expected this quarter. Revenue hit 13.7B vs 13.2B estimates, up 3 percent YoY, and EPS crushed expectations at 0.23 vs 0.02. Management keeps pointing to better execution and faster response to customers. Government support and a product partnership with NVIDIA are hard to ignore. Cash should be over 30B after the Altera sale. But they still trail in AI, and the market has been quick to punish anything that is not GPU related. If their 18A node and Panther Lake delivery stay on track, maybe the narrative actually changes next year. What do you all think. Is this the start of a real rebuild, or just another low bar beat. Anyone here holding Intel long term, or just trading the earnings reaction

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It’s up 80% this year what else do you want?

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That was the biggest pump and dump bullshit I’ve ever seen

reddit.com › r/hardware › inside intel, employees say the famous culture gradually fell apart—and worsened the chipmaker’s downward spiral

r/hardware on Reddit: Inside Intel, employees say the famous culture gradually fell apart—and worsened the chipmaker’s downward spiral

October 3, 2025 - If you're hired by Intel to work e.g. on a 6-month contract, you are a green badge and can expect to be let go as soon as the contract is up (or when the contract gets cancelled half way through; happening 50% of the time).

reddit.com › r/stocks › why is intc (intel) so down? did i miss some news?

r/stocks on Reddit: Why is INTC (Intel) so down? Did I miss some news?

April 30, 2024 -

Isn't intel the only one planning to build a TSMC and Samsung like chip factory in the USA and Europe or did I get something wrong? Dosslen't that also give them a lot of good points with the goverment?

Also Nvidia leaving the gaming market when becoming an AI company dosen't that mean Intels new Arc could have an openning when it gets better in the next few generations? Or does Nvidia plan to stay in the gaming market just focus on the AI and I got that wrong?

Also CPU battles are historicaly cyclical. AMD on top, Intel on top AMD on top, Intel on top, Now AMD, In 5 years?..

Also Pet Helsinger seema like a good CEO to me or did an I not informed well? He became CEO some 3 years ago if I remember correctly at the top of my mind? Dosen't that mean we should se reutrns in the next few years on his decisons?

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Intel's old successes don't hold the company afloat anymore, especially after the previous 2 CEOs that fucked shit up. It's a broken company that's on the mend, so the reports they give out are a lot of expectations and goals, not accomplishments. These are not what you would call a stable foundation (and intel has a history of falling on it's face, especially venturing into new technologies like AI). Furthermore, the foundry itself has yet to be profitable and has been a lengthy investment with not much return. Regardless, with all this negativity against it, Gelsinger is a man with an actual Tech/Engineering background and will hopefully steer the company out of rough waters into smooth sailing. He has already proven to be more competent than the previous two. Edit: disregard this Gelsinger is gone

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They’re spending most of their money on building new fabs, so the news is saying that Intel is losing billions.

reddit.com › r/stocks › intel down on great news and the bleeding continues

r/stocks on Reddit: Intel down on great news and the bleeding continues

November 26, 2024 -

What am I missing? Intel receives 7 billion in grants and the stock nose dives. They turn down federal loans because they don't need them.

I know it is sell the news but this is ridiculous. The stock is practically trading at their book value.

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Nana is looking down like

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Qualcomm doesnt want to acquire Intel anymore, a news that came out today (plus the funding thing, which was smaller than hoped). https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-26/qualcomm-s-takeover-interest-in-intel-is-said-to-cool

reddit.com › r/hardware › broken cpus, workforce cuts, cancelled dividends and a decade of borked silicon—how has it all gone so wrong for intel?

r/hardware on Reddit: Broken CPUs, workforce cuts, cancelled dividends and a decade of borked silicon—how has it all gone so wrong for Intel?

August 3, 2024 - AMD closed the gap, and intel did not react until it was too late. So another example of how benefits short term kill 10x more long term. Chairman, execs and in shareholders just jump ship, employee and retail shareholders stay holding the bag. ... This is the same thing that happened with Boeing.

reddit.com › r/apple › five years after apple broke up with intel, intel is begging for money.

r/apple on Reddit: Five Years After Apple Broke Up With Intel, Intel is Begging for Money.

September 24, 2025 - But this subreddit does nothing but badmouth the president for trying to fix this, and move manufacturing back to the US. It isn’t going to happen overnight, but it’s a step in the right direction. ... Why do you think Apple left? Everything you listed is WHY Apple abandoned them. They would’ve continued to use Intel if they were a good partner.