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May 21, 2024 -
I'd like to know both countries want Taiwan so much. I understand that China wants Taiwan because they view Taiwan as Chinese as well. But why does America so resistant about this and would even intervened in case war breaks out over Taiwan.
What benefits does America gain by doing this, I believe that every nation has their best interest at heart, so what is the gains/benefits here?
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Taiwan used to be the government of mainland China before the revolution that brought Mao and the CCP into power. This was the government that the US was allied to during WW2. The US never stopped being their ally even when they effectively lost the war and escaped to Taiwan. Where the war is effectively paused from Communist China's PoV. They want to finish the war and claim Taiwan. Not just for the island and industry they have, but because they do not want another government having any kind of claim to the rest of China, in case the world starts backing Taiwan. I'm sure this is a drastic oversimplification.
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The current state of Taiwan exists because Chinese leadership lost the civil war to the CCP in 1949 (when Mao came to power) and fled there. The USA, being anti communist, was always on the side of the Republic of China, and so historically has always maintained good relations with Taiwan. In modern times Taiwan has become a tech hub and the leader in semiconductor and electronics manufacturing. It thus holds an incredible strategic importance for the USA and the rest of the world, enough to go to war over.
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Why china wants Taiwan?
There are quite a few reasons. China needs a way out to open seas. The most direct path is by owning Taiwan, a relatively larger island that already has defenses built, which existing shipping infrastructure and pockets of high development. It can't go through the north (though maybe if Russia were desperate...) it can't go through the south, and the east is basically blocked in by unfriendly states. The Chinese people feel it is a historic and important territory for reunification. It's a similar situation to the two Koreas, there are people who wish for their country to be whole again. This sentiment is used by the CCP to justify their increasingly aggressive stance on Taiwan. Taiwan currently exports a main contributor to the western hegemony (Advanced computer chips), and so a capture/reunification of/with Taiwan would severely weaken western dominance regardless of if they can actually make those chips after the fact. Here, chips are the gravy, the meat is controlling or denying western computer chips. This is because China can already get Taiwanese scientists since people move between the two countries for work anyways. China does not like Japan, both for their alliance with the west, and for their ww2 activities. A Chinese owned Taiwan would put direct pressure on Japan that is more effective than North Korea. North Korea is a vassal state that pretends it wants to shoot a missile every few months to get money. Taiwan is a economically prosperous region that also has counter-claims on some islands that japan claims (that conveniently China also claims). This would strengthen Chinese claims on this island. (This is the Daioyu/Senkaku island dispute). More sea area means more fishing and natural resources rights. China is currently not energy independent or food secure, and these directly play into self-sufficiency. China believes itself to be the successor state of the ROC (and so also the Qing Dynasty) and so it believes that it inherits the claim on Taiwan, forming a legitimate historical claim to the island. More on reddit.com
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The CCP government justifies the Taiwan thing completely from a historical perspective. They see it as a part of unfinished civil war. Taiwan became part of the Qing empire in the 17th century. It was ceded to Japan in 1895, and given back to China in 1945 after China won WWII. In 1945-1949, a bloody civil war happened in China where the communist party (CCP) won almost the whole China from KMT (currently the opposition party in Taiwan). The KMT government retreated to Taiwan, and the CCP armed forces have no navies, so they aren't capable of sailing the strait to pursue and attack the KMT forces, and bring Chiang Kai-Shek to trial. In several following decades, the KMT in Taiwan is an authoritarian government hoping to reclaim the entire China by force with the help of the Americans, which launched air strikes in Shanghai in 1949-1953 and sent naval attack to coastal areas near Guangzhou in 1962-1963. The democratisation of Taiwan happened around 1990s, which is finally the Taiwan you see today. The CCP never recognised Taiwan as a country, but views it as an another power within one country instead. For their cooperations in economy and trade since the 1980s, they compare them to the cooperation between CCP and KMT in 1937-1945 against Japan. This historical dilemma can also be seen from the current Taiwan constitution which regulates the official name of the country as 'Republic of China', exactly the same name as the administration in China in 1912-1949. Edit: Source? Last Air strike in shanghai seems to have been 1950. And can't find anything about paratroopers drops in 1964. The Guangzhou bay attack was by sea in 1962-1963 and can be confirmed by records from both sides. The largest Shanghai air strike happened at Feb 6, 1950. Wikipedia says the strikes end in 1953. Many sources from the CCP reported strikes in 1949-1957 as anti-air results, but i found no records by the Taiwan side. More on reddit.com
Why do so many Chinese care about taking Taiwan?
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Why does china want taiwan? - HotBot
July 3, 2024 - China's interest in Taiwan is deeply rooted in historical context. The island of Taiwan, historically known as Formosa, has been an integral part of Chinese territory for centuries. The Ming and Qing Dynasties controlled Taiwan, and it was only ceded to Japan in 1895 after the First Sino-Japanese ...
Council on Foreign Relations
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Why China-Taiwan Relations Are So Tense | Council on Foreign Relations
The platform of the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), the KMT’s chief rival, has long claimed Taiwan as a sovereign, independent country [PDF] under the name of the ROC, and therefore does not need to declare independence. The DPP rejected the 1992 Consensus, but former President Tsai Ing-wen attempted to find another formulation acceptable to Beijing. In her 2016 inaugural address, Tsai pledged to “conduct cross-strait affairs in accordance with the Republic of China Constitution, the Act Governing Relations Between the People of Taiwan Area and the Mainland Area, and other relevant legislation,” which contain a One China framework.
Wikipedia
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Political status of Taiwan - Wikipedia
2 days ago - Notably, the People's Republic of China claims that changing the national borders would be "a precursor to Taiwan independence". The task of changing the national borders now requires a constitutional amendment passed by the Legislative Yuan and ratified by a majority of all eligible ROC voters, which the PRC has implied would constitute grounds for military attack. On the other hand, though the constitution of the Republic of China promulgated in 1946 does not state exactly what territory it includes, the draft of the constitution of 1925 did individually list the provinces of the Republic of China and Taiwan was not among them, since Taiwan was arguably de jure part of Japan as the result of the Treaty of Shimonoseki of 1895.
Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs
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A policy of "one country, two systems" on Taiwan_Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China
November 17, 2000 - Taiwan is a sacred and inseparable part of China's territory. Owing to reasons known to all, Taiwan has since 1949 been separated from the mainland. To bring about the complete reunification of China is the common aspiration of all the Chinese, both in the country and overseas.
South China Morning Post
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Explainer | Why does Taiwan matter so much to both mainland China and the US? | South China Morning Post
Washington views Taiwan as a bastion of democracy next to autocratic mainland China and a strategic foothold for a peaceful Asia-Pacific. Though, like most other countries, it does not see the island as an independent state.
Published January 8, 2024
PBS
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Experts' Analyses - Why The Taiwan Issue Is So Dangerous | Dangerous Straits | FRONTLINE | PBS
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r/geopolitics on Reddit: Why china wants Taiwan?
July 24, 2023 -
it is area wise very small .
China already has vassal state ( north korea) near s. Korea and Japan.
Invading Taiwan would mean directly challenging Usa. Also due to aggressive policy of China, japan is building it's own army and i also heard they are Developing a plane .
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There are quite a few reasons. China needs a way out to open seas. The most direct path is by owning Taiwan, a relatively larger island that already has defenses built, which existing shipping infrastructure and pockets of high development. It can't go through the north (though maybe if Russia were desperate...) it can't go through the south, and the east is basically blocked in by unfriendly states. The Chinese people feel it is a historic and important territory for reunification. It's a similar situation to the two Koreas, there are people who wish for their country to be whole again. This sentiment is used by the CCP to justify their increasingly aggressive stance on Taiwan. Taiwan currently exports a main contributor to the western hegemony (Advanced computer chips), and so a capture/reunification of/with Taiwan would severely weaken western dominance regardless of if they can actually make those chips after the fact. Here, chips are the gravy, the meat is controlling or denying western computer chips. This is because China can already get Taiwanese scientists since people move between the two countries for work anyways. China does not like Japan, both for their alliance with the west, and for their ww2 activities. A Chinese owned Taiwan would put direct pressure on Japan that is more effective than North Korea. North Korea is a vassal state that pretends it wants to shoot a missile every few months to get money. Taiwan is a economically prosperous region that also has counter-claims on some islands that japan claims (that conveniently China also claims). This would strengthen Chinese claims on this island. (This is the Daioyu/Senkaku island dispute). More sea area means more fishing and natural resources rights. China is currently not energy independent or food secure, and these directly play into self-sufficiency. China believes itself to be the successor state of the ROC (and so also the Qing Dynasty) and so it believes that it inherits the claim on Taiwan, forming a legitimate historical claim to the island.
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From a military strategic viewpoint, Taiwan is a crucial part of the "first island chain" China containment doctrine that the US has fairly openly discussed. Although it is a small island, if it comes under the control of the PLA, then China has access to the Pacific that would be hard for any other country to monitor. To this end, China also press their claims on the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands north of Taiwan. Like any other aspirant to "great" nations or "empires", China believes that it deserves a sphere of influence in nearby countries. Lack of power in the Pacific is, in the minds of Chinese nationalists, a great humiliation. (This doesn't have to make sense to anyone but themselves - see Russia) Also while there is a dominant CCP, internal politics and national sentiment play a significant role. The PLA has to be kept "on side" with the ruling party and that means appeasing the calls to greater military funding. And there is no better excuse for the military to justify more spending than a perceived security threat that must be, at a minimum, defended against or, maximally, to eliminate. There are of course fairly legitimate historical claims - even though one could point out that Taiwan was, at no time, a constituent of modern Communist China or PRC.
MIT Press
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What Does China Want? | International Security | MIT Press
August 1, 2025 - In U.S. academic and policymaking circles, the conventional wisdom is that China wants to dominate the world and expand its territory. For example, Elbridge Colby, deputy assistant secretary of defense during Donald Trump's first term and undersecretary of defense for Trump's second term, writes: “If China could subjugate Taiwan, it could then lift its gaze to targets farther afield …
BBC
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China and Taiwan: A really simple guide
January 8, 2024 - Then in 1945, after Japan lost World War Two, China took the island but now a nationalist government, led by General Chiang Kai-shek, was in power. This was at the height of a decades-long conflict between Chiang's forces and Mao Zedong's Communist Party. When the communists won in 1949, Chiang and what was left of the nationalist party, known as the Kuomintang or KMT, fled to Taiwan, where they ruled for several decades.
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Why does China want Taiwan so badly?
Xi Jinping's wet dream is to capture the entire world and Taiwan is on the top of that list. As we all know, China is not a big fan of boundaries and does not understand the meaning of NO!Their communist govt does not recognise Taiwan as an independent nation and they have indicated many times about invading this small island nation situated in the East China sea.
Dhgate
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Why Does China Want Taiwan? Key Reasons & Tensions Explained - Smart.DHgate – Trusted Buying Guides for Global Shoppers
October 27, 2025 - Delving into the complex question of why China wants Taiwan requires unpacking a mix of historical context and current geopolitical tensions. Taiwan is more
U.S. Department of State
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The Taiwan Straits Crises: 1954–55 and 1958
In the early 1950s, Chiang’s forces launched minor attacks from Jinmen and Mazu against the coast of mainland China. Leadership on both sides of the strait continued to view the islands as a potential launching pad for an ROC invasion to retake the Chinese mainland and had an interest in controlling the islands. U.S. policy toward East Asia in the early Cold War contributed to the tensions in the Taiwan Strait.
Council on Foreign Relations
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Why China Would Struggle to Invade Taiwan
June 12, 2024 - Like Ukraine, Taiwan is a young democracy bordering a much stronger authoritarian power that does not believe it should exist as an independent state. After Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, many Taiwanese people have concluded that a Chinese invasion of Taiwan needs to be taken seriously. China is investing huge sums to develop the capability to bring Taiwan under its control by force, if need be.
Stanford University
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Explaining the issues between the U.S., China, and Taiwan | Stanford Report
August 10, 2022 - The first thing on the agenda was there had to be a normalization of relations, which meant that the United States would have to diplomatically recognize the PRC. To do this, they had to figure out what that meant for the U.S. relationship with Taiwan and what we now call the “One China” policy came out of this, which was an ambiguous way for both sides to get what they wanted.