Since Microsoft is soon going to end support for Windows 10, would that mean would also in a way, be ending support for Windows 11 because Windows 11 is in a way, a redesigned Windows 10 update because they are both Windows 10.0?
After reading “How to get Windows 11” I got the question about Windows 11’s life cycle. In theory it will be supported for about 10 years but the date of EOL is a different story.
I have 4 variations of Windows 11’s EOL date:
Like Windows 7 (December 28th, 2031),
Like Windows 8.1 (October 6th, 2031),
Like Windows 10 (December 22nd, 2031),
Til the end of 2031 (December 31st, 2031).
What do you think about it? Should I add and correct date variations?
Eleven is not a good choice of number. I mean twelve is good, a nice dozen, midnight. Eleven is just something approaching twelve.
Most people want Windows to resemble, er, Windows. XP was well loved Vista tried to be different so they brought in Windows 7. Windows 8 . . . yes well . . . so they brought in Windows 10.
There is no compelling hardware change to warrant a new OS. XP was primarily 32 bit and didn’t support sata drives, windows 7 no efi gpt support for main internal hard disk . . .
Apart from not looking like traditional windows the file manager aspect is awkward to use.
There are latency issues ie it can be slow in operation.
There is gross attempt to inflict hardware limitations - hey it’s the owners pc not microsoft’s.
Surely this will be put out of its misery and replaced by Windows 12? Can’t see them going back to 10 and just leaving it alone unfortunately.
I know extended supports are usually ten years out, W10 is this year, but I can't find anything from Microsoft on the extended support (patches) for W11 anywhere, did they change the model with 11???
Thanks!
They could just make new UI, stuff, etc as part major update of Windows 11 instead of make seperate OS because it's not even few years old yet...
Okay, so as we all know, the Windows 10 end of support is today. And for some reason, my Windows update page says "Your Windows has reached the end of service." but here's the weird part I'm using Windows 11 currently to type this Reddit post right now. I recently got my computer upgraded by a nearby computer shop for like $150
Edition Windows 11 Home
Version 22H2
Installed on 7/25/2025
OS build 22621.4317
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22700.1041.0
EDIT: We are suing!
My MS Surface tells me that my version of windows has reached end of service. So no more updates.
I did a check and MS says that the processor is not suitable for/covered by a newer Windows 11.
In trying to go around this I find that - in System Summary - the date for the BIOS is not available. BIOS made is UEFI
Are these things connected? Can I get around this? I find it hard to believe that a Surface Pro 4 Windows 11 cannot be updated.
TPM is 2.0
Less than half of Windows worldwide running 11... Even in N.A. not 55% yet.
https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide
FOLLOW UP : What I actually meant to ask : What are the chances and feasability of them expanding the ability to upgrade via Windows update on older processors ? It's possible to do so manually in some cases. Is it likely they could backpedal to allow gen 8 to update in order to get a higher conversion rate rather than forcing less techy folks to buy a newer system or run EOL version ?
I just ugraded or updated to windows 11 this morning and now on the lockscreen it tells me to update to windows 11! (See image message). The layout has changed from the old windows 10 so I assume that the new layout is in fact windows 11. I checked all around settings and seems like the install to windows 11 was successful.
Any ideas how to clear this msg on the lock screen, or if something is missing in windows 11 update?
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-11-enterprise-and-education
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-enterprise-and-education
This makes Version 22H2 the last ever major feature updates for these operating systems!
(Well, I know Win10 22H2 has no new features... but whatever... )
Long rant incoming:
I got a hand me down gaming PC from a friend. It’s a pretty big thing for me as I’ve never had the money for a nice build myself. 1070ti GPU with an i7 7700K CPU. While I’m not SUPER into PC gaming, this build has given me the opportunity to play games like DOOM Eternal with a keyboard and mouse, something I’ve always wanted to do; I’m finding that it emulates many older systems beautifully too, which is good as I’m wanting a backup way to play those games if my older systems ever kick the bucket.
However, it’s got windows 10 and, as we know, W10 is going EOL in October. I would’ve thought a PC like this would run W11 just fine considering that my girlfriend’s crappy HP desktop from Walmart runs it fine, but wouldn’t ya know, I just can’t get it because of my CPU. Sadly, the motherboard I have can’t slot anything higher than the i7 either, so I’d pretty much have to go with a new build if I wanted to upgrade parts, which just isn’t in the cards financially right now.
So I’ve been looking at my options. I’m seeing mixed reviews on how using W10 is gonna be after it’s not supported. Some people say “just get a good antivirus and don’t download sketchy stuff and you’ll be fine,” while others say “your computer is a huge target just being connected to the internet at all; someone can hack your PC without you lifting a finger if they find the right security vulnerability once W10 is out of date.”
Not that I use it for browsing the net much anyway; And of course I know Steam will eventually stop supporting it too; hopefully years down the road. I know I can bypass the requirements and force install W11 using Rufus or reg edits, but I’m not too sure about that either. I have the TPM 2.0 and everything, its literally just the CPU holding me back. And I’ve seen responses on that varying from “you can run W11 on unsupported hardware with no problem” to “it might work great today, but MS could release an update tomorrow that bricks your entire PC.”
So if I stay on W10, I’m at security risk, and if I force upgrade to W11, I can never be sure that I won’t run into major compatibility problems later that might break my system anyway.
I guess a third option is to just unplug the Ethernet and keep the computer offline. I have pretty much all the games I’ll probably want to play already installed on it; Most of my games are single player and Steam offline mode works fine with all of them, I’ve already tested that. Wouldn’t be able to play Minecraft online with friends, but I have that on every system imaginable so I’m not too worried there either. I guess I’ll HAVE to take it permanently offline eventually once steam stops supporting the OS, or my steam games will stop working at that point anyway.
I’m just frustrated because I’ve always wanted a nice gaming build, and now that I have one, I’ve gotta deal with this dumb situation that MS has created. I know I’m not alone in this; just looking for some takes on what is the best route for me here.
It hasn’t been like this since windows 3.1 I believe
I have a Dell 3050 with an i7-7700 processor. I don't use it often but last night I fired it up and discovered that Win 11 Pro is end of life. Thought I could just switch to Win 11 but the PC Health check says the machine is not capable of running Windows 11.
Wait, what? It's already running Win 11 Pro....
What options do I have?