Hey there with help from some people on another thread i got myself a new processor. Now i need a new bios however I heard there are major issues even on the last gen (AM4) newest bios.

So here is the question those of you who use the Asus Rog Strix X570-F and have a 5800X3D with 32GB 3600mhz crucial ballistix memory at CL16.

Which Bios is better the newest which is " ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING BIOS 4602 "
Or the previous one "ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING BIOS 4408"

I have downloaded and installed the 4408 due to that had better ratings and stability from what I found online from the 4602. However would not mind some newer opinions about the newest bios if its stable with ram and does not cause WHEA or blackscreens.

Hello Community!

After googling around for hundreds of hours Im so insecure with all my BIOS settings that I think I should ask guys that are even better with it: you!

Built:

Asus X570F (latest firmware) Ryzen 5800X (Gold sample) Cooled by Alpenföhn 360 Aio (with good paste) 32Gb Team Group RAM, ocd to 4000mhz Geforce RTX 3090 Asus ROG 850W PS Alot of Airflow, Fans, Space Running on Windows 10 Pro

So since I got my Ryzen I've been trying to get the most out of it, Benchmarks are not relevant to me, gaming performance is.

I did a Curve Optimizer OC with no Offset all - 30. I did a per Core negative with 200 Offset. I did a All Core of 4,8 Ghz. I ran a ryzen clock tuner profile.

Somehow I feel like often I get stuck with cores not boosting above 4.8Ghz or even running at 4.6 - this is why I for now the all core profile gives me the best performance.

Mostly I am focused in finding issues in the secondary settings in my BIOS, everything that is not in the PBO settings and I just can't find any actual guide that tells me what's the best, I'm listing all of them that come to my mind:

PSS Support SB Clock Asus performance Enhancer Asus Fmax Load line calibration DF Cstates and C-States TPU CPU capability (100-130%) Preferred Cores SMT Any other important ones?

Then the questions is should I put manual Power limits to PBO or leave them?

I tried to find my best cores with ryzen master, it only show me 2. Any other tools?

I'd like to OC with PBO 2, I learned alot about OCs the last year and I'm willing to spend time. For the common questions:

Yes my Cooling is wonderful, temps low.

Yes I tried any kinds of combs of scalars, limits, offsets etc.

I'm running process lasso and the bitsum highest performance power plan, no other software.

I am playing competitive Valorant and all kinds of single players.

This is on a latest Windows Updates, drivers, the amd Chipset drivers suggested on my Mainboard page.

I hope you can help me reddit, sorry for the wall oft text, I watched so many videos and read so many guides which of I never know if they are outdated or not - so many that I'm just lost in all kinds of variants...

I thank you from the bottom of my heart,

Alex

I was wondering if it’s worthwhile updating my BIOS on the asus Strix x570-f? Im currently on version 3603, which is a bit old comparing to the latest 5021 release. Curious if anyone know would updating actually improve anything performance wise? I see that for example in version 4204 the release notes say:

2. Improve system performance and stability 3. Improve system performance for AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

Are these significant improvements? 🧐

Im using a ryzen 9 5900x & rtx 4090.

This morning I recieved my Ryzen 9 3900x along with an Asus ROG Strix X570 F Gaming. I put it all together booted up for the first time loaded my ram settings and checked everything was detected, which it was. I then decided that seeing as this is a new platform I should update the BIOS. I did this through the motherboards utility which downloads the bios from the Internet and Installs it automatically. I came back to my pc and there was just a black screen. So I left it for about an hour before attempting to reboot. This resulted in a blank screen. I then put the bios onto a USB driver abd followed the instructions for USB bios flashback. However this has also failed. I've reset the CMOS to no avail. I've contacted Asus support but thought I'd ask on here too as I'd probably get a quicker response.

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570 F Gaming CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900x RAM: 2x 8Gb Corsair LPX 3600mhz

Any help or advice would be my appreciated.

Apologies for formatting, grammar, sentence structure etc I'm posting from my phone as my pc isn't working, obviously.

Hi guys,

got a brand new x570 Strix-F Gaming and a 5800x with 16GB TridendZ 3200 CL14 (On the list).

After installing CPU, GPU and RAM the System does not post. First I got the orange DRAM LED, after flashing the BIOS with USB Flashback I got the Red CPU LED.

For power (750W BQ DR Pro, brand new) I tried 8 Pin only, 8+4 and only 4 just for curiosity. Nothing.

I flashed back to 2606 but no post. I tried different RAM slots, nothing. Right now I am trying version 2802.

I cleared CMOS after every flashbkack.

If there is nothing more I can do, board and CPU are going back tomorrow. Thinking of just going 10900k now ..... Been a Ryzen fan since 1700X but every new generation I got these problems.

Maybe someone here can help me or relate.

Cheers.

I encountered this issue earlier today while working on my parents' home PC.

I built this system about a year ago (summer 2020) as a long term home PC. Full (relevant) specs:

• MOBO: Asus Strix X570-F Gaming

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

• RAM: 2x16GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600MHz 16-19-19-39 1.35V (F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC) NB: This kit is present on the Memory QVL list for this MOBO/CPU combination, so that shouldn't be an issue.

• GPU: GTX 970

• PSU: Seasonic Prime PX 650 W

When I put the system together, I updated the out-of-box BIOS to version 2407, and finished the build with no issues, everything worked pretty much as it should, DOCP settings for the memory worked, and the system was performing well and stable (and has been for the whole year).

When I visit my parents, I usually do some regular maintenance, cleaning the filters, checking that everything's working as it should, making sure all the fans work, sometimes some driver updates etc. etc.

I noticed that the computer was dropping some notes about some USB device "not working correctly", so I changed the printer cable to another USB port and so far haven't seen that particular issue come back. However, I wondered if there might be something regarding USB in any of the BIOS updates. Of course there was, so I figured I might as well update the BIOS to most recent version (4002).

After the BIOS update, I went to the settings and set up the same memory settings as before (DOCP settings for the memory, 1800 MHz for infinity fabric, everything else on Auto), and hit F10, save settings.

At this point, the system simply would not work properly. Either it would go into a boot loop - sometimes with beeps, sometimes just with orange DRAM error light. Sometimes it would boot up to the BIOS or even OS, but it was so unstable that it would always crash. In order to get some googling done, I reset the CMOS and just run the PC with automatic memory settings (2033 MHz), and indeed it was stable but of course a bit slower due to the memory speed drop.

I could manually adjust the memory speed to 3200 MHz and infinity fabric to 1600 MHz, and that was seemingly stable, but I was not comfortable with either the performance drop, nor with the idea of leaving the PC running with a BIOS that doesn't really work as it should. So I started looking into downgrading the BIOS back to the known working version.

Usually, I use the EZ Flash utility to deal with BIOS changes. Unfortunately, it seems like the EZ Flash does not allow BIOS downgrades freely. I could gradually downgrade the BIOS from 4002 to 3604, then down to 3602, and finally to 3405.

None of these BIOS versions worked with the DOCP memory clocks. At this point I hit a wall, since further downgrading the BIOS was not allowed by the EZ Flash utility: It would simply say that the "Selected file is not a proper BIOS".

So, since EZ Flash was not working, I resorted to the BIOS Flashback utility at the back of the board. As I said I haven't used this before, since I feel a bit uncomfortable with the idea of just looking at a blinking light and hoping that it stops rather than goes solid, but I guess in principle it's not any different from looking at a progress bar and hoping that it finishes rather than fails somehow.

Anyway, I was successful in installing the BIOS version 2407 with the Flashback tool. With that BIOS, I was also able to set the memory to use DOCP settings, and everything worked normally. So the computer is basically exactly what it was before this sleigh ride began, working stable, but with a slight chance of USB issues cropping up in the future.

Naturally, at this point I am very hesitant to try further BIOS updates. It's possible that some of the BIOS versions between 2407 and 3405 might support running the memory at 3600 MHz, but I'd rather not try my luck unless there's a good chance of actually accomplishing something.

So, although I resolved the issue (sort of), I don't consider it "fixed". Clearly there is some kind of significant incompatibility issue with the more recent BIOS updates, and the particular hardware combination in this PC.

It's possible I could manage to stabilize it by fiddling with the memory settings, like changing CR from 1T to 2T or increasing the DRAM voltage further from the certified 1.35V, but to be honest I don't feel comfortable doing that for two reasons: First, the computer is out of my reach for most of the reach and therefore I can't easily fix things if something goes wrong, and secondly, the PC is designed for the long haul. I'm OK with running the memory at its rated voltage and other certified settings, but I really don't want to mess around with the voltages further than that. The way I see it, the memory should work at 1.35V, and it does with BIOS version 2407 - therefore it's not the memory that's unstable, but rather it's the newer BIOS versions that fail to properly run with the DOCP settings of the memory modules.

What I would like to know is what exactly is causing it? My potential list of candidates is:

1. New CPU support starting from BIOS version 3001. This could mean changes to how the board handles memory controller? If this is the case, then versions 2606, 2608, 2609, and 2802 might be worth a try... but not unless

2. Introduction of AGESA 1.2 introduced in version 3405, which I already tested and failed with higher memory clocks. I found some anecdotes elsewhere about AGESA 1.2 being a bit buggy. In this case, BIOS version 3001 might also potentially work.

3. Installation method of the BIOS? The non-working BIOS updates were done with EZ Flash inside the BIOS, while the downgrade to 2407 was done with BIOS Flashback button. However, I think this is very unlikely, as minor memory incompatibility is the least of the issues I would expect with even a slightly corrupted BIOS installation. My experience is that either the BIOS works or it doesn't. Also, I remember installing the BIOS version 2407 last summer via EZ Flash utility, and that worked normally. So I rather suspect this is not the issue.

Does anyone else have similar experiences with memory issues after a BIOS update? Or difficulty in using certified DOCP settings with memory in general?

Also, what would be the best way to bug report it? Is it more ASUS' or AMD's responsibility?

What are the odds of this kind of thing being fixed in the future, since for obvious reasons much of the development focus on BIOS fixes is probably directed towards the Ryzen 5000 series...